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Builder Name:Mike Guenthner   -  
Project:   Vans - RV-8   -   VIEW REPORTS
Total Hours:458.2
Start/Last Date:May 01, 2019 - No Finish Date
 
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Mar 18, 2024     New Parts on the way, finally - (.1 hour) Category: Misc
Confirmed my order for replacement LCP. Just over $1700 to replace all the LCP's in the wing kit. It's time to get going again, it's been far too long.

I would like to order the fuse kit but with the current state of affairs at Van's, zero confidence in ordering anything right now so gonna wait for a while.
 
Mar 08, 2024     Still not much to report - (.1 hour) Category: Misc
Van's did send the order form for the replacement parts. I put in my requested parts and nothing but crickets since then.
 
Feb 07, 2024     Two months later, nothing really to report Category: Misc
Just watching the time pass as Vans tries to sort out their mess and turn things around. I finally received the email from Vans asking me to confirm which parts I wanted to replace. As planned, I selected all laser cut parts for replacement. Easy decision since none are installed just yet. This will cost me an additional $1637 on top of already paying for the wing kit. It's awesome to have to pay for the same parts twice. 90 new parts in total, Vans is covering the 8 parts they deem worthy of replacement in the wing kit. I am on the hook for the rest. But in their generosity, they gave myself and everyone else in this mess, a 25% discount off the price of the parts. Fair enough except when you realize this is 25% off of the newly increased prices for these same parts. Since prices have gone up on average about 30% on parts, I'm actually not getting any discount at all on these parts, in fact it is costing me more than if I had just ordered the same parts new back in the fall of 2023. Very frustrating but they claim without the price increases, they will be sunk. What's a man to do???

Also they have a policy now of not allowing any deletions of parts from a kit. So thins like a cowling, gear legs, brakes, all those will now be shoved down your throat whether you want to use them or not. Not sure how a company like Show Planes will deal with this as that's their entire business model. Hopefully someone in Aurora will come to their senses about this well before I need to order any of those pieces.

What a cluster....
 
Dec 08, 2023     Vans is bankrupt.... Chapter 11 style.... - (0.05 hour)       Category: Misc
Well a month on and Vans officially files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. So no real updates to speak of on the build. I did buy some stuff from Van's to 'help' their cash flow but it was more to give myself something to do for now. I think the only reason for writing this update is so that the automated reminder at EAA leaves me alone for another few months and to be able to look back some day on this writing and remember how bad things were.

Worst case they go insolvent and I'm left with a complete'ish empennage and a bunch of worthless wing parts. Less worse case is that they jack the prices of everything up by many double digits and it just got way more expensive to do this and the timeline stretched out even further.

It's still early in the process but it looks like in order to save Van's, it's going to get really expensive for anyone involved. For my part it appears I will be getting replacement wing kit parts sometime in the coming year, no timeline given at this point. What I don't know as of the writing of this is how much if anything that is going to cost. A judge in Oregon will eventually decide. We'll see.

In the meantime one of the things I bought from Van's was the lightbox practice kit so I will start assembling that for something to do over the upcoming holidays.

Good times!


 
Nov 01, 2023     Vans is in trouble.... - (0.6 hour) Category: Misc
Another month has gone by and the news coming out of Aurora, Oregon (home of Vans) has gotten even worse than before. Long story short, Vans has run out of operating capital and has paused their operations in an attempt to restructure the company. I won't go into how they got here, you can Google it and read all about it.

What that means for me: I've got it comparatively good, I'm just waiting on new parts to replace the laser cut parts that Vans instructed to scrap as well as all the other parts that I want to replace. I had yet to install any of the bad parts so it's just a simple matter of getting new parts and moving on. Unfortunately as of Nov 1, 2023 there is no timeline for when or if that process will happen. To be frank, Vans has a mess on their hands as thousands of builders are affected by this, 1800+ to be exact and a very large number of those builders, including myself, are requesting replacement of ALL of their laser cut parts, not just the ones that their engineering analysis has deemed un-airworthy. This apparently has taken Vans by surprise and they cannot for now honor these requests. They are already cleaning up a mess from quick build kits that had corrosion in them to the tune of millions of dollars. This next issue with the parts has the potential to put them out of business all together.

No one wants that obviously. Most of us just want to get good parts and continue building. Unfortunately the costs of this endeavor get higher and higher every year. If Vans pulls through this (and there's very little reason to think they won't) their kit and part prices will almost certainly increase and not by a small amount. Between the pandemic, supply chain challenges, labor shortages, and extremely long kit lead times, Vans has been selling kits at a loss for a while now. That is easily correct on their end by raising prices or moving to a different payment system. Gone will be the days of locking in your kit price when you order it. Interesting times ahead for sure.

So what am I going to do?? My only choice is to be patient and watch quietly from the sidelines as one of the most iconic names in general aviation on this planet struggles to keep the lights on. The laser cut parts debacle is only one of several major challenges they are facing and in a list of priorities, is not at the top. So the builders log updates may cease for a while. There are some small tasks I can work on which I will continue to log here but if this takes a while to sort out, the project may get put on hold for the winter. Time will tell.

 
Oct 11, 2023     Not much to report - Vans Laser Cut Parts Debacle - (1 hour)       Category: Wings
Not much to add right now. There is some work that can be done but not much. I have 93 affected parts from my wing kit that either Vans says are unairworthy or I am deeming un-airworthy on my own. Most of those parts Vans is claiming are serviceable but I am calling BS. There are too many builders reporting cracking after dimpling laser cut holes in these parts. I am lucky, all I have to do is get new parts and then move on. There are many, many builders who are in far worse shape than myself.

I finally got around today to inventorying my kit for the affected laser cut parts today. In all I will need about 70 new parts from Vans before I can continue building. Vans for now is saying they will only cover the cost on 6 of those parts and that I will be able to purchase the remainder at a reduced price. No mention of who gets to pay for shipping back here to Ohio. No mention from Vans yet as to what the discount will be and how long it will be until new parts arrive. I am not holding my breath, I don't expect to see replacement parts this year. I did the math via a test order through Vans website, if I wanted to pay full price and replace all those parts on my own dime, I'd be looking at more than $1300 to do that. That's on top of the nearly $600 that Vans forgot to charge me in sales tax for the wing kit a year ago that they are now requesting.

So no updates forthcoming until this is all sorted out and no one knows when that will be or what it will ultimately look like.

The dream is in a holding pattern right now with no EFC......


 
Aug 12, 2023     It's been a while! - (6.25 hours)       Category: Wings
Time to check in finally! Not a lot of progress to share. Been busy flying at work, Oshkosh 23' came and went and just not a lot of time to work on it. Then the laser cut parts issue reared its head....

As for the progress, still countersinking and installing nutplates on the right side spar. It's just about done. I need to C/S and install the smaller nutplates that hold the leading edges of the access panels. Once that's done, the right spar prep will be basically finished. Don't expect much progress in the next month as we have a family vacation, then a week at home of normal flying followed by a week long European trip. Did I mention I just got home from 6 days in South America! The pilot shortage is both good and bad!

As for the Vans laser cut parts saga..... I received an email from them the week before Oshkosh. The email said that certain parts contained in my wing kit are not airworthy and that others in the kit may also not be airworthy. Long story short, a sub-contractor they used to make parts did a really poor job with their laser cutting of the holes, so much so that some of the parts are completely scrap. Mostly the flap and aileron spars but also ribs in the wing kit. Vans is testing the affected parts to see exactly which ones are still usable and which ones are not. I have affected parts, that much I know for certain. How many will have to be replaced is TBD at this point. I'm awaiting (along with everyone else affected) Vans to tell me how to proceed.

What this ultimately means for me is that I will most likely end up having to wait on new parts from Vans. I'm lucky, I don't already have things like the flaps, ailerons, wings, empennage parts, etc. already constructed. There are some (rightfully so) really pissed off builders right now that are looking at having to rebuild large parts of their build. Glad I'm not in their boat so a delay waiting on new parts is nothing compared to what some people are facing.

So with that in mind, the building may have to slow way down (not like I'm flying as is) until the parts situation gets sorted out. For now I can finish the spar prep and get them mounted on their jigs. Fall is approaching and with it, the days of being able to work with ProSeal for the year are numbered. I'm considering just buying a finished set of fuel tanks if possible. That alone would save me probably 6 months worth of work. We'll see.

As for the pics below, just making consistent countersunk holes with the CS bit, measuring them with a caliper to make sure they are in spec (spec comes from a drawing out of the RV-14 plans). Nutplates installed with pneumatic squeezer which is easy to do. Once nutplates are installed then the actual #8 screw holes can be countersunk using the nutplate itself as a secondary pilot hole, works great!

So the pics are a bit out of order but the order is this, countersink the rivet attach holes to the proper depth, rivet the nutplates into place. Then countersink the screw holes using the nutplate as a guide. Spot prime those screw holes after you are finished. That's it, that's the process, not much to it. Rinse and repeat.

Next is to countersink the rivet attach holes and the screw holes for the #6 screws. Just need to find the right depth for the CS bit.


 
Jul 14, 2023     Prep work on right hand spar continues - (3.5 hours)       Category: Wings
Time to attach all of the platenuts/nutplates to the spar web. Nothing too difficult, just repetitive. Start by upsizing the predrilled holes for the nutplates to #40 to accept the AN3 screws. Simple enough and glad I taped off all the openings as it generates a ton of shavings. With the holes opened up, you need to countersink each one to accept an AN426 3-3.5 rivet. Key is to get the depth just right, not too deep but not too shallow. The skins from the fuel tank will sit on top of the spar web in this area and any rivet head sticking up will make the skin not want to sit flush. After practicing a few holes on a scrap piece I had the countersink dialed in and again just a matter of making good countersink holes down the length of the spar web. Again this generates a lot of shavings so I vacuumed up the shavings quite often as it makes a mess. With the countersinking done, you can add the K1100-8 nutplates to the bottom side of the spar web flange and secure each on with a single cleco. This lets you line up the other attach hole and put a 3-3.5 rivet in it. I used the pneumatic squeezer to set each rivet in place. With that done the clecos can be removed and the nutplates are held in place. Now it's time to countersink the larger screw hole.

Before doing that, I needed to get the larger countersink set up to make the proper depth of cut. The platenut will host a #8 screw which is placed through a dimpled skin from the fuel tank. So you will have a dimple sitting inside a countersunk hole that leads into a platenut. Somewhat important to get the depth of the countersink correct to make sure everything nests inside themselves properly. To do that I tried countersinking a few holes in the scrap material. Unfortunately the C/S bit would immediately start chattering back and forth slightly in the hole as the pilot of the C/S bit had nothing to hold it steady. So I tried making a guide out of another piece of scrap and even that really didn't help. So it wasn't feeling very optimistic at first. Then I decided to actually just use a platenut and practice on that. After setting it up, I was able to drill a very nice countersunk hole, indeed as the Vans instructions indicate, the opening in the platenut will act a guide for the countersink bit pilot and allow you to make a nice hole without the chattering. I kept experimenting with the depth and a #8 screw until I had it where I wanted. I double checked the cut dimensions using a caliper and referencing the dimensions given in the RV-14 plans. Everything was in limits and this should result in good holes once I drill them into the spar web.

As I was experimenting with the practice platenut, I noticed that if the AN426 rivet heads sat a little high in their countersunk holes, this had a tendency to make the skin not sit completely flush with the part. So I ended up checking all those nutplates that I just riveted and decided to drill out the rivets on a good portion of them. I then went back and used the #40 countersink to increase the depth of those holes just slightly so that the rivet will sit absolutely flush to the spar web flange. The AN426-3 rivets are easy to remove fortunately. Replaced the rivets that were sitting slightly proud and called it a night.

Also in this series of work I started setting up the process to make the spacers used on the tie down supports. The spacers are made from a 1/4" aluminum bar that comes with the wing kit. I marked and center punched the locations for the holes to be cutout and will use a hole saw on my drill press to cut them out when I get to that point.


 
Jul 09, 2023     Organizing the wing hardware - (2.0 hours)       Category: Wings
Needed to get the wing kit hardware organized and I got a good chunk of that done this evening in a few hours of work. Still have some more to sort and store away. Also spent some time yesterday researching and gathering reference material for the beginning of all the countersinking on the spar that is the next step.

HINT: There is a page from the RV-14 plans that gives you exact dimensions for the holes you will need to countersink into the spar. See picture below. These are meant for the 14 but are the same for the RV-8. This will allow you to physically measure the depth and radius of the countersunk holes to make sure you are not going to deep or making them too wide.


 
Jun 29, 2023     Starting on wings - (1.0 hour)       Category: Wings
Just a quick start on the wing spars by inspecting them for damage, labeling them for orientation and taping off all the little crack and crevices that may hold metal shavings as I get ready to drill about a thousand holes and countersink them.


 
Jun 29, 2023     Empennage Tech Counselor Visit - (1.5 hours) Category: Empennage
EAA Tech Counselor Gary Baker was kind enough to stop by and look over my work on the empennage HS/Elevators. Work is satisfactory and we discussed a bunch of different things that will be required once the tail is attached to the fuselage as well as upcoming building of the wings.
 
Jun 16, 2023     A big update! Empennage Done! - (16 hours)       Category: Empennage
Well, it's done finally! The empennage that is.

It's been a few months since I made a log entry. Life has been busy and I haven't had a lot of time to work on the finishing bits for the rest of the empennage. But finally it's all done minus the fiberglass tips which I will save for later in the build. The prices of epoxy are stupid expensive and the stuff has a limited shelf life so mostly for economical reasons, better to do most of it in one batch later in the build.

When I last left off I had completed the final parts for the trim tab installation. With that finished, the remaining tasks were to test install the elevators, trim the horizontal stab skins where required and drill the hole in the elevator control horns that allows them to be joined together. Nothing too hard but the task of drilling the hole in the elevator horns has a lot of 'nightmares' associated with builders who managed to dork it up and had to remove the control horns and have them welded closed again. I didn't want to be one of those people so I spent time researching best how to do this before committing to the task.

First task was to install the elevators to check range of motion. With the rod end bearings set to the correct depth, installing the elevators was actually not that easy to do by myself. The flexible bearings were just a hair larger than the brackets they fit into which meant they never wanted to seat themselves naturally and all of them needed some help getting into position. I eventually learned to use a tool to pry them open slightly (more like just put a little opening pressure on them) which helped the bearings fall into place much easier. So once you install each elevator, you immediately see where the skin from the HS needs to be trimmed on the upper portion to allow the elevator horns to move freely. The plans call for a min of 1/8" clearance for each horn which just requires you to trace out the little area that needs to be removed and cut it off with something like a Dremmel tool. File and debur the freshly cut surface and round the corners and that little task is finished.

With the elevators able to move freely now, time to check the up and down range of motion to make sure the rolled leading edges don't interfere with anything and to make sure you have plenty of up and down travel. I took a hint from another builder and put masking tape on the rolled leading edges to help protect them since they would be getting installed and removed a bunch during this process.

Again taking another hint from other builders, I purchased a set of temporary control hinge pins from Aircraft Spruce that made installing the elevators MUCH, MUCH easier. See the picture below. The threaded handles can be screwed on and off as needed, well worth the money as having to use the actual AN3 bolts each time would have been very difficult, especially by myself.

I played around with a few of the fiberglass tips to see what all was involved in installing these. They would all need trimmed to fit and then cleco'd in place before attaching them. The fiberglass work would add weeks to where I'm already at and I want to move on so ultimately and after purchasing everything but the actual epoxy, I decided to just wait and do all the fiberglass work at a later date and time. The epoxy is very expensive these days (what isn't?) and has a limited shelf life. I would certainly end up wasting a lot of it by just doing the tips of the empennage now. So that can wait as the instructions indicate. Also allows me to take another class or two on fiberglass before diving into that.

Skipping the tips allowed me to proceed to the final steps of the empennage which were to align the elevators and drill the bolt hole into the control horns. This is where I came to a stop for a while as I contemplated why my two elevators did not match up with the control horns clamped in place. The instructions have you clamp the control horns so that the elevators sit in the natural trail position. Doing so resulted in one elevator sitting about 1/2" higher than the other at the outboard tip. I had a few panicky moments but after a lot of research I learned that this is not uncommon, that you can induce some twist into your elevators during construction and ultimately, if it is an issue during your test flights, the twist can be worked out if needed. So I decided ultimately to just press on and I will deal with it down the road. I'm learning that the parts will almost never be completely 100% true and straight (just like the walls in your home) and almost anything can be addressed or fixed if needed.

So now began the process of figuring our how to drill this mythical hole in the elevator horns using a bushing placed through the center bearing. There are lots of methods and opinions out there on how best to accomplish this. Ultimately I used the Van's recommended method of sourcing a bushing from the aviation aisle of the local home store. The AN4 bolt, 4 meaning 4/16" or 1/4" should mean that a bushing with an outside diameter of 1/4" should slide right in there. Ahhhh.....kids this is what they don't tell you in the instructions, go get your 1/4" bushing from the home store and when you get it back to your build shop, use a set of calipers to measure the outside diameter of your newly acquired bushing, then measure the outside diameter of your AN4 bolt. Remember AN4 means 4/16" right so 1/4" right??? In theory they should be the same size. And actually measured in fractional inches, they are the same size. However measure again if you can with your calipers in millimeters and you will see the problem with this. The AN4 bolt is smaller in OD in mm than the bushing you just bought. So when you try to fit this bushing into the bearing to use a drill guide, SURPRISE, it won't fit, it's too big in diameter. So back to the internet and again borrowing an idea from another builder, there is a solution. First of all I purchased both 1/4" plastic and aluminum bushings from the home store. Neither of which fit. Then based on a tip on VAF, I special ordered steel bushings from McMaster-Carr that had an inside diameter that fit a #40 drill bit perfectly. The problem with all of these 1/4" bushings is that they were all too big in OD to fit into that center bearing. So again thanks to a tip I read on another builder's log (thank you Michael Foss), I placed the steel bushing into the chuck of my drill press and tried to sand the OD down to the correct size to fit the center bearing. Unfortunately I wasn't getting anywhere with the steel bushing so I tried the plastic one and that wasn't a great success either. Finally I tried the last one I had, a 1/4" aluminum bushing and I was able to use a combination of a file and sandpaper to mill it down to the correct size so that it would fit into that center bearing. Whew.... that actually worked!

With the bushing issue resolved, it was time to drill that hole. First things first, again through my research it is fairly common for the trailing edges of the elevators to not align perfectly with one another when the control horns are placed in the trail position. If yours do, consider yourself lucky. What you need to be aware of and what the plans don't stress is that it is more important for the trailing edges to be aligned than the control horns or the counterweight horns with the HS skin. Yes of course if one counterweight horn sticks way up into the airflow, that's not good, time to call Van's. But a small amount is considered normal and not an issue. Also it seems rare that the two inboard control horns match perfectly. Knowing that, I figured out which elevator was the true'est of the two and clamped that one into the trail position. In this case the right elevator was the better one and I simply matched the left elevator to the right size using a few pieces of L channel clamped to each elevator surface. To make absolutely sure the elevators were in line with one another I spent a considerable amount of time clamping the L channel and using multiple levels to get them as close as possible. To make a long story short, I clamped one L channel to the top of the elevators and one to the bottom thereby squeezing the two elevators in between the two pieces of L channel. Each L channel had a level zip tied to it and using the level bubbles for each, I was able to find the matching position for the left elevator that made it mirror the right elevator. The result was that the left elevator horn sat a little below the in trail position with the HS skin but just barely and something I can live with.

With the elevators rigged identically to one another, it was time to use that little bushing for what it was intended for. The first step is to remove one of the elevators to give yourself enough room to drill the pilot hole. So off came the left elevator (remember the whole assembly is sitting upside down, so left is right in the pictures). The bushing that I was ultimately able to mill down to size had a larger inside diameter than Van's wants you to use but it's what I had that was the right size and through some test fitting, a #19 drill bit was the matching size for the ID of this little bushing. So I lucked out here because I would have had to order one if I didn't already have it on hand. Time to make a hole in the steel control horn. I knew it would take a while to drill it out as the powder coating is tough enough to drill through on its own. So patiently and carefully I began drilling using the bushing placed through the center bearing as a drill guile. The bushing was snugged up against the control horn and was long enough to make for a very accurate guide. The bushing began spinning right away with the drill bit as the fit of the #19 drill bit was very tight so I had to use a pair of pliers to hold the bushing with one hand and hold the drill in the other. After a few breaks I finally was able to break through and get the pilot hole drilled. At this point I removed the right elevator and put it back into my stand, then used a #12 drill bit followed by a #10 drill bit and finally a 1/4" reamer to make the final sized hole. The reamer is critical here to getting a smooth and precise hole so that the bolt will fit properly. I needed to debur the hole on the outboard side to remove some metal debris. I couldn't get a normal deburring tool in that tight space so I just used the cutting head of a deburring tool and twisted it a few times with my fingers until the hole cleaned up. Right side finished.

On to the left. Again in order to get the hole accurately drilled, I had to put both elevators back on and once again using the L channels and levels, match the elevator trailing edges up. Then I needed to fix the left elevator in that position to drill the hole on that side control horn. Using a combination of scrap wood, weights and wedges, I was able to fix that elevator into position and again using the bushing as a drill guide, drill the initial pilot hole for that side. Then repeat the process, remove the elevator placing it into the stand, then enlarge the hole in steps finally finishing with the 1/4" reamer.

With both bolt holes now drilled into the control horns, one final fit check was needed to make sure everything was good. Off and on the elevators went trying to get all the hardware installed. This time around I actually used the AN3 bolts for the rod end bearings to attach the elevators and struggled a little bit to get the bolts in place. With those in place, I used the AN4 bolt called for with the appropriate washers and some general hardware 1/4" washers as the spacers in between the inboard side of the control horns and the actual center bearing itself. Again this was just to test range of motion and it will all come back apart so I wasn't too technical with the nuts and bolts.

After getting all the hardware installed, that was it. I had a working elevator system. Left and right elevators joined together for the very first time in all these years and it was cool to see how smoothly they moved. Now the bolts holding the elevators in place are not secured with their nuts yet and I understand that once they are, that nice smooth motion can disappear and there can be some very fine adjustments needed for the rigging. But again that is way down the line at this point when the HS and elevators get attached to the fuselage once that has been completed and ready to accept them. So no worries for now, I'll just enjoy getting to this step finally. Here's the dumb part though. After all that, after all the careful measurments and leveling, after all the fretting and worrying, once you bolt the two control horns together, if the bolt isn't very tight (as I have it) you can actually move either elevator independently of the other and not even disturb the opposite side elevator. So as it turns out, I probably way overthought this step and will need to worry about the rigging of the elevators way down the road when the tail gets mated to the fuselage. Oh well, live and learn and move on.

From here, I will need to wait for the tech counselor to stop by to have a final look at the work before I put it in storage for who knows how many years. Once he gives his blessing, I will disassemble everything and put them on shelves in the garage and start on the wings.

During the last two months I also managed a few other projects. One of them was to build new shelves in our basement to hold all of the wing parts. So that took the better part of this past week and they turned out great. I should be able to use them for the fuselage kit parts as well. Just to build the new shelves I had to organize our basement and move a bunch of stuff around first.

I also made one of those METAR maps using a kit I purchased online. So that was a little side project that took a few weeks to build off and on.

The build time on the empennage (minus the fiberglass work) was 4 years and 1 month and according to this EAA log, 442 hours. Not proud of that. Some guys build it in a few months. But doing the math, working 40 hours a week hypothetically, that's 11 weeks to complete so actually right in line with what it should take hours wise. I'm not one of those guys who has the time to do this full time. Instead I'm a full time husband, father, foster parent, professional pilot and active EAA chapter member among other things. I build when my time allows and life gets in the way quite often. When I began this build in May of 2019, no one had ever heard of COVID and I had a different flying job that had me in the airplane or office 4-5 days a week. Things have changed A LOT since then. I now have a better schedule with more time off and we're past the pandemic so I should have more build time. Going forward on the wings, I need to be better at making steady progress. My style would best be summed up as "fits and starts". I'd rather it be steady progress. We'll see.

Looming in the not to distant future are two fuel tanks that need to be built. Let the stress begin! :0


 
Apr 17, 2023     Finishing the trim tab setup - (3.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
This actually took longer than I had anticipated, I needed to trim the cover plate for the trim tab motor and then set up the push rod connection between the motor and trim tab horn.

As I was working to get the trim tab motor and mount set up, it became obvious that I would need to remove more material in the cutout for the trim tab push rod. So some selective surgery with the rotary tool and various files finally removed enough material to let the trim tab clevis have free range of motion with no interference.

Once that was sorted out, it was a matter of trimming the trim tab push rod to the right length to allow full motion for the trim tab. After a bunch of trial and error, I've got it set up. Not totally happy with it and I think there is a better way to rig this up eventually but for now, this will do. The final rigging is years down the road at this point.

To test the trim tab motor and move the tab back and forth, I soldered up some leads for the two very fine wires that control the motion of the motor. This was very useful and I'm glad I did it. The wires running to the trim tab motor are extremely fine and I need to do some research to see what the best method is going to be to eventually join them to the run that will take them up to the cockpit.

What took so long today:
1- Stripped one of the screws that holds the trim tab motor to the mount so had to spend some time removing that screw and nut, will have to order new ones.
2 - Just taking the trim tab motor in and out of the cutout takes some maneuvering, it's not an easy fit
3 - Soldrering those fine wires wasn't the easiest task
4 - Lots of trial and error, takes time

I leave for a week of recurrent training on Wednesday so tomorrow will be my last chance to work on it for a while. I need to get the counterweights secured and those nuts torqued on, in theory shouldn't take too long. Torque is 28 inch pounds. Establish the torque drag and add that to 28 to get the actual torque setting. Mark with a witness mark and call it good. In the meantime I will order some fiberglass products and new hardware that is needed.


 
Apr 12, 2023     Reconfigure for Wings - (3.0 hours)       Category: Workshop
Had a nice weather day so I re-arranged the garage/shop to get ready for wing construction and finish off the elevators. Moved the small work bench to the wall and brought out the 8' bench. I still need to re-arrange where some of the big tools will go. The DRDT-2 will probably get a new mobile platform to live on. Ready to finish the elevators and move on.


 
Apr 05, 2023     Elevators Odds n Ends - (2.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Couple hours this afternoon tying up some loose ends with the elevators. First I needed to bend the lower leading edge of the trim tab skin so that it doesn't contact the opposite side skin as it moves up and down. Best method for this ended up being just using a long piece of steel bar to gently bend the skin downwards enough to give sufficient clearance. All this work trying to make this trim tab straight and we still end up just bending it to shape at the end. Overall I think I could still bend it up a little bit more but for now, unless it is a problem after the first flights, I will leave it as is. Based on its current range of travel, that should be more than sufficient trim tab movement to achieve the desired results.

Next up was to install the rod end bearings to spec. Each one gets a jam nut (Vic Syracuse are your jam nuts tight?). The little PVC pipe setup I used to do this on the rudder just didn't really get the job done to twist the bearings into the platenuts so I just used a pair of vice grips with a towel over the bearing to protect it. Twist, check the distance and repeat until the center of the bearing is in the acceptable range. I marked my precision ruler for the 1/16" range that the bearing gets set to.

So two more items off the list for now.


 
Mar 31, 2023     Finishing the right elevator riveting - (3.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Riveted the first two sections which were already set to go and then spent a few hours hand massaging and rolling, and hand massaging and rolling, and more massaging and more rolling until I was happy with the fitment of the final inboard rolled section. Drilled to #30 holes (for all of them) and riveted with the called for pop rivets.

And so that's it. Without much fanfare, without much celebrating, the construction of the two elevators is essentially finished. Just fiberglass and some trailing edge tweaking to go.

So now it's time to start working on the rigging of the two elevators to eventually make them one. Gonna be a few days of getting organized for this final phase of the empennage build. I need a bigger work table for sure. I also need some temporary attach fittings to hold the elevators to the horizontal stab while I check the alignment of both elevators against the stab and each other.

So I don't know how I feel right now. I'm not celebrating. So far to go still but now the empennage is entering a different phase. Fiberglass work and other techniques that will be new so of course those are a bit intimidating for sure. We'll see.

Still to do:
1-Finish attaching the nuts that hold the counterweights in place and setting the correct torque values
2-Installing the rod end bearings and setting their proper depth
3-Finish fiberglass tip work (optional at this point)
4-Temporarily attach and rig both elevators
5-Drill the through bolt hole for both elevators
6-Secure both elevators together making them one piece



 
Mar 28, 2023     Back to the Right elevator - (2.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Time to get back to the right side elevator and roll the leading edges for this elevator. Really wasn't looking forward to this again but this time the first two sections actually went pretty quickly and without much fuss. So those two are ready for riveting. The final section, which is the middle size of the three on the right elevator, is actually the one giving me fits to end the night. I can't get it any closer than about 3/8" right now. The middle section came together so nicely I wasn't expecting to have any issues with this final and shorter section. I'm convinced now that the initial two rolls are everything in this process.

I use a smaller 3/4" OD pipe to do the initial roll to get the edge to roll over so that it will join and sit flat. Then I come back with a 1 1/4" pipe to put a larger radius in the skin. This worked great for the first two sections but not so much for the last. Oh well, lots of massaging ahead.

I did go ahead and cleco everything together. This last section still has too much pre-load on it so I will continue to work it.


 
Mar 25, 2023     Final riveting of left elevator and a big oops! - (3.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
It was time to be done with this silly little trim tab and move on. So today's task was to finish riveting the tab skin and elevator skin to the tab hinges and install the darn thing finally.

We left off with those two challenging rivets. The two that I just couldn't really get to with anything. I looked at these two rivets for a good bit, trying different bucking bars, yoke heads and trying to come up with a plan. As it turns out, I didn't need to buck them. I was actually able to start setting both of them with the no-hole yoke and then finish them off with the regular 3" inch yoke. It actually worked out great and I finished those two off fairly easily. I have done this before in areas that are really hard to get to or that don't have the clearance to be able to get a squeezer yoke or bucking bar in there. Where there's a will there's a way I guess. Now here was my dilemma. After setting these last two rivets on that side of the trim tab, I had 15, 3-4.5 rivets left. Exactly the number I would need to rivet the top portion of the hinge to the underside of the elevator. So no pressure!

I cleco'd the top half of the hinge to the underside of the elevator and made sure the alignment was correct. I was actually relieved to realize that there was way more room to work in this area than I had originally thought which made it easy to set these 15 rivets with the normal 3" yoke. So working right to left I set each one carefully as I didn't have any extra rivets to spare. Again the plans here call for a 3-4 sized rivet, THIS IS WRONG, DON'T DO THIS. This area which is the same as the opposite side on the trim tab, same amount of material thickness to go through, needs this slightly longer rivet to get an acceptable rivet set. So I set all 15 and was quite proud of myself for not screwing any up. It was time to match the loops of the hinge and insert the hinge pin to finally, finally have the trim tab attached. The hinge pin at this point has been out and in so many times that it's not 100% straight any longer which makes it really tough to put in and take out. No worries as I have plenty of it leftover from the extra hinge that I ordered so I'll just use a new one after this final test fit. Everything looked good at first and then it hit me......

You have got to be @#$%ing kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I riveted the hinge on upside down!!!!! I can't believe I did this!!!! This is literally what I did with one of the hinge sections when I was initially mocking it up last week and I promised myself to be more careful!!! And worse yet, I don't have any of the right sized rivets left!!! For once instead of screaming and cussing, I just laughed. It's all you can do sometimes. The fix is relatively simple, just drill out all 15 rivets, turn the hinge over and do it right. But now I don't have any rivets to use.... or do I......?

So first things first, after having a good laugh at my stupidity, I decided to go ahead and carefully remove all of these very nicely set rivets that I had been so proud of. I was determined not to elongate any of the holes so as not to have to go up a rivet size which wouldn't be the worst thing but also not the easiest. So carefully and slowly I drilled each rivet out being careful to stay centered in the rivet head and low and behold, I got all 15 out without a problem. Whew.....

But now I had a thought. Sitting right next to me is the wing kit which arrived back in January. Surely, surely there had to be some 3-4.5 rivets in that box of kit hardware. There were so many bags of rivets in there, there just had to be some that I could use. A quick trip over to the worktable to look at the kit inventory list and sure enough, there was indeed a bag of this sized rivet. My only problem is that box of hardware is buried inside the main crate which is sitting underneath the crate holding the wing spars. I really didn't feel like taking all that and moving it just to get to this box but in the end, my desire to get this thing completed today won out and after dinner I ended up moving the wing spars off the big crate and opening it up to find the hardware box and the bag of 3-4.5 rivets. Fortunately there were plenty in there and I was able to finally and correctly set the rivets attaching the upper hinge section. So in the end all it cost me was time and a little work to get to those rivets. I will just order some new rivets to replace what I have used. So whew! With those rivets finally set and the hinge section in place correctly I attached the trim tab, made a new hinge pin section and bent the end over as a temporary hold until down the road when the whole thing will get secured in place.

With that finally done, that's it. The left elevator, minus a few things is done. All the riveting is done, the trim tab is in place and functions normally. I decided to get rid of the vinyl and clean the skin. I also went ahead and attached the trim motor to its mount. I see that I need to clean up the edges of the attach plate as it doesn't quite sit flush with the skin. That should be easy enough to do in the coming days.

So that's it. After all the toil and struggle of the past few weeks, the left elevator is complete. FINALLY!

Next up, I need to roll the LE of the right elevator (not looking forward to that), attach the rod end bearings in each elevator and then it will be time to put them together along with the horizontal stab and check for fitment. From there they eventually get bolted together once everything is in alignment.

Before I get that far I need to do a few things which to get ready for that step. I would like my tech counselor Gary to have a look at everything before I get too far. As this is a critical step, I could use all the help I can get at this point. The trailing edges of both elevators need just a little adjustment for shape and a couple other little minor things. Not sure yet if I want to tackle the fiberglass tip work or leave it for later, we'll see.


 
Mar 23, 2023     Trim tab kicking my @#$ ! - (3.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
This trim tab....

Where to start? With the hinges all sorted out, it was time to work on the trim tab riveting and shaping. Despite my best efforts to prevent it, this trim tab, Version 2, is also a bit warped. Started off ok but after riveting and bending the skin in various directions to access the inside, it now seems to be off again. Giant sigh...

Let's talk about this trim tab design and why it's less than optimal. Even Van himself has said in the past that he didn't think they could get away with selling pre-punched kits for the very reason I'm about to explain. On a smaller part like the trim tab, with no internal bracing, structure or stiffeners, the skin is free to deviate from the desired shape with any little bit of extra stress or pulling in a given direction. Where does this stress come from you might ask? It comes from riveting the skin to the underlying spar. After you bend the trailing edge to shape, and then go and drill and align the hinges, dimple the holes, etc. the chances for you to introduce a change to your initial bend are quite high. Just the act of cleco'ing the skin to the underlying spar can stretch the skin slightly. Just enough so that when you finally rivet it all together, there is enough tension now on the skin to pull it in various directions. Think about it, the cleco's themselves don't hold the skin exactly in place, there's some wiggle room available. When you finally rivet the skin in place, that's it, no more wiggle room and hence, if the skin isn't perfectly aligned with the holes in the spar, it will start to pull the skin in that direction towards the front of the piece and away from the trailing edge. This results in what has happened to trim tab version 2. The top of the skin is pulling a little tighter than the bottom forcing the bottom to be ever so misshaped. The top is very flat front to back but has a noticeable bulge in the middle. The bottom is noticeably not flat from front to back and has a concave section through the middle. So sigh.... The design itself could be vastly improved. Maybe it is on the 10, 12 and 14 and soon to be 15 models. The 8 was designed in the golden days of home building where things were done at low cost to save money I suppose.

So what to do about it? That's my dellimma right now. Leave it and build on or try to squeeze it and bang it back to shape as Van's says you can do via their instructions in Section 5. I build the squeeze tool today and I have a block of wood to bang on the trailing edge. As I mentioned in the previous update I need to do this to the elevator trailing edges anyhow. Unfortunately so far, my efforts to straighten the trim tab have not produced any significant changes. Do I just need to squeeze a bit harder? Do I need to hammer a bit harder? We'll see. But for now, it's not terribly misshapen so for now I'm going to leave it alone and press on. In the end, it's not a huge process to build a new one (again) down the road if the airplane handling isn't quite right.

So last night I decided to rivet the skin together to the spar and move on. The bottom side went a bit better as I was able to set those rivets with my pneumatic squeezer which I hardly ever use. Only issue was getting the head of the yoke behind the skin and spar. Those all set fairly easily. So feeling good about my progress (it was getting late) I decided to go ahead and set the rivets on the top side of the skin. I could already tell this wouldn't be as easy due to the lack of space at the outboard end of the trim tab spar. I had read from other builders to rivet the hinge in place with the whole thing attached to give it more rigidity and keep the lower half from flexing or bending which is what I did.

WARNING: THE RIVET CALLOUT FOR THE TOP SIDE RIVETS IS WRONG. You need to go through the skin, the spar and the hinge piece. Those three pieces combined mean that the 3-4 rivet called for in the plans is not long enough! It was only after I set the first rivet that I realized this as it was way too shallow once it was set. So another sigh.... Fortunately I have some 3-4.5 rivets laying around and those were the correct size. So with that sorted out I was already off to a bad start. I could set the very end rivet on the outside with a no hole yoke and even the next one in but the next few I don't have anything that can get in there. Even a bucking bar is going to be tight. So I finished the rest of the rivets, the ones that I could set with a hand squeezer. Unfortunately I messed up a few of them during this process and spent a bit of time drilling them out. The inboard most rivet I tipped over. When I drilled it out, I came out the back side off center and enlarged the hole. Crap. Time to go up to a -4 rivet. Then as I was working my way back towards the outside, I somehow squeezed the skin and structure instead of pinching the rivet. I immediately saw a rather nasty bend in the skin, spar and hinge. The hinge pin itself was now no longer smoothly able to be removed, in fact it was stuck!!! Crap! So I decided to at least set the rivet next to it and then see if it could be unbent. I started to squeeze that rivet and did nearly the same thing!!! @#$% !!!!! What in the world was going on here?? Basically I let my guard down and didn't make sure the squeezer was contacting both sides of the rivet properly. Honestly I don't think I've ever done this before when riveting a skin on. Holy cow this was bad as now the skin, spar and hinge were bent in not one but two places!!! I kinda freaked out thinking I had just destroyed yet another trim tab after all this work.

Hang on, take a deep breath and let's look at it. My first task was the hinge pin. I knew since it was stuck that the alignment of the hinge loops was now off enough so that the hinge pin was stuck. Sure enough the little dents I had put into the skin, spar and hinge structure where enough to misalign the hinge loops to the point where the pin would not move. So I carefully took a set of needle nose plyers and began to unbend my mistakes. Slowly but surely I was able to get everything almost back to normal. I was able to get the hinge pin to move freely again and then was able to reset those two rivets safely this time around. This left me just two rivets which you can see in the pictures. I may have to buck those or I may just elect to go with blind rivets once again. We'll see.

So all in all, a very frustrating night even though I made some progress. This stupid little trim tab is gonna be the end of me I swear. And just think, there's probably many of these instances to come. Good times! Build on!


 
Mar 21, 2023     Simple task takes hours..... - (4 hours)       Category: Empennage
Never ceases to amaze me that sometimes, the easiest of tasks, ends up taking hours. This is how you end up with those dents in your forehead as you repeatedly bang your head against the wall in a vain attempt to right what is wrong.

Anyways..... All I needed to so was to attach and match drill one half of the hinge section so that the new trim tab would sit perfectly aligned with the rest of the elevator. Easy enough right...? Wrong!

For starters, I didn't pay attention to the direction of the new section of hinge was getting attached to the underside of of the elevator. I had the two half sections of hinge, that attach to one another, 180 degrees out from what they should have been. IOW when you set the two parts of the hinge down on a flat surface, the two flat parts should both be on the same side as one another laying flat on the surface. I fiddled around with this hinge section attached backwards for about an hour before I realized my mistake.

So take two or three or four....... Anyways I fiddled and fiddled around with the hinge (once I had it oriented correctly) trying to get the trailing edge of the trim tab to align with the trailing edge of the elevator as the plans have you do. The issue I ran into was that if I made the two trailing edges perfect with one another, there wasn't enough material on the upper hinge section to drill an attach hole and still have proper edge distance. IOW I was having to push the upper hinge section too far away from the edge of the elevator cutout to get a good alignment but also have enough distance to drill and ultimately rivet a hole.

As always having a line drawn down the middle of the hinge attach point was helpful here as it allowed me to see just how far off it would need to be to be perfectly in line with the elevator's trailing edge. So in the end, I had to compromise a little bit to get enough material to drill into in the hinge. That's why this took forever. Once I finally settled on the alignment of the upper hinge to to the elevator to get the trim tab to sit where it needs to sit, I was then able to match drill the attach holes for the upper section of the trim tab hinge.

Again, hours of frustration which fortunately was interrupted by a visit from a friend and fellow RV builder (RV14) who stopped by to look at my project and talk shop. Dan lives about 10 minutes away and is just getting started on an RV-14A build so will be a valuable resource to have close by.

So I was finally able to hang the trim tab to the elevator temporarily to at least see a somewhat finished piece! Now it was time to disassemble everything and prime the parts. So took some time to do that and prime the internal parts. I am not going to prime the interior of the trim tab this time around.

With those parts primed and readied, I riveted the two control horns to the lower side of the trim tab. Despite all of my planning and dimpling ahead of time, I still could not reach that aft most hole to get a rivet in there. I finally gave up and went with another MK319BS rivet for that spot which I'm fine with.

I also primed the little section of skin on the bottom of the trim tab on which the control horns sit. Good place for water to collect so better to be safe than sorry.

With all of that done it was a good place to stop for the day. I noticed now that the blue vinyl is off the trim tab, it has a pretty good bulge in the center of one side of the skin. It's really noticeable if you put a straight edge down the lateral axis of the trim tab.

So new task next time out, build the straightening tool from section 5 of Van's plans to help remove this bulge. I need to do this anyways because the trailing (folded) edges of the elevators need a bit of tweaking before I'm done. So I will build one of those squeezing tools and see if I can get the trim tab a little bit better shaped before I start the final riveting. Not sure I can get rid of all of it. Again there's no internal structure to the trim tab for support so I will do the best I can without ruining it and then live with it.

Also this time around I think I can get a squeezer in to the side of the tab that gets riveted to the lower half of the trim tab spar. Riveting that by hand with a bucking bar (blindly) last time around wasn't fun. Hoping to avoid that this time around.


 
Mar 20, 2023     Finish rolling leading edge/start new trim tab - (4 hours)       Category: Empennage
Productive afternoon and evening.

First task was to finish rolling and riveting the leading edges of the left elevator. More massaging and rolling until I was satisfied. I've been working on this off and on for a few weeks now. It's time to finish and move on. Overall, I'm pretty happy with this side, only pillowing is on about 1/3 of the longest section and that was due to not being careful enough when hand massaging the one side of the skin that allowed it to get a bit warped. I can live with it. The rest looks ok. So time to move on. I am going to try rolling the entire section on the right elevator to see it that works better.

With that finally finished it was time to get back to the trim tab rebuild. Parts have been here for a week just waiting to be used. I followed my own advice about the order in which to do things. Match drilling the holes for the control horns and then dimpling them BEFORE bending trailing edge and the end tabs turned out to be a good move. This time around I bent the trailing edge quite a bit further than round 1. I believe this was my main issue on the first one I built. You can see in one of the pictures the difference between version 1 and version 2. I was much more aggressive with the bend this time and made sure to keep the trailing edge set tight to the hinges. It came out much better this time and fits the spar nearly perfectly. With that done I used the same technique to bend the end tabs as round 1. Still think this is better than using a wood block form. This time I relied on the rivet gun to act as an air hammer a little more than the first time around and again, this worked really well to finish off the bending of the trailing ends which are very hard to bend by hand. The two small tabs were still a pain but they came out much better this time around and I'm actually happy I rebuilt it.

Bends complete, it was time to see if the original hinge (that was already drilled) would still be viable to use with the new trim tab. It initially looked pretty promising. The trim tab side of the hinge still fits perfectly. So one less set of holes to drill there. Then I cleco'd the top half of the hinge to the elevator side and initially it looked perfect. I mocked up the straight edge along the trailing edge of the elevator and it is really close! If I was in a hurry and didn't have any more hinge material, I would just live with it as is, it's about 3/32' out from being true. Again my OCD will get the better of me and since it's a relatively simple fix, I will just make a new top half for the hinge and drill new holes that properly align the trailing edge so that it's perfect.

So a good bit of progress today, I'm happy I rebuilt the trim tab, this version is way better than the first go around and I can still use half of the original hinge which saves some work. Next session I will finish mocking up the upper half of the hinge and get that drilled. Then it will be time to disassemble the parts, clean and prime before riveting everything back together and maybe, just maybe finish the left elevator finally!


 
Mar 16, 2023     Back to working on the leading edge rolling - (4.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Couple afternoon/evening's worth of work. I just wish there was a simpler process for this as it is very time consuming and frustrating. But it's like that for most builders, nothing new here, it just is a pain. So back and forth with different bar sizes. The smaller diameter bar gets used first to set the initial bend so that the area with the holes will lay flat. Then come back with the larger diameter rod to put a more significant bend in it.

I did managed to drill a new hole in the spar, through the lightening hole in the elevator horn, this will serve as a hole to put the wiring through for the electric trim servo motor. I don't like the idea of running that wiring through the same hole that is going to have the threaded rod end for the trim tab push rod going through it. That's what the plans call for but not a fan of that idea.

Biggest thing to watch for when doing these rolls is to not crease the part of the skin that sits on top of the spar. That's very easy to do if you do not put pressure on the rod away from the spar as you are wrenching on it. Anyways just lots of bending, hand shaping, more bending, more hand shaping, all just trying different things to try to get the two edges to overlap eventually which isn't very easy to do to be honest. The longer the piece of skin, the harder it is to get right. So the middle section is the biggest challenge. Once I was happy with the fit, I match drilled each hole to #30 size to accommodate the AD41ABS pull rivets and riveted two of the sections together for the night which was a good place to stop. The long section has a little bit of pillowing which my OCD is not thrilled about but I spent hours trying to correct that without much luck so build on at this point, it will be out of side and out of mind.

So nothing too exciting to report. I do have the new parts from Van's for the trim tab so will begin to rebuild that here in the next few days.


 
Mar 04, 2023     The struggle is real! - (2.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
I was feeling pretty good today, I managed to get the trim tab clamped and the opposite side hinge flange match drilled to ultimately mount the trim tab this evening. Everything was going along well, I had it lined up perfectly with the trailing edge as viewed from above. I was just about to start riveting the first few rivets for the hinge on the trim tab side when I started to notice that the trim tab itself, once it was all cleco'd together, had a very slight warp to it that showed at either the inboard edge or outboard edge depending on which side you held firm against the straight edge. Maybe 3/16" out from being true. Hmmmm..... how did this happen and is it a big deal??

So therein began several hours of internet searching for others that have had this issue and it's actually not that uncommon. This trim tab..... I tell ya.... Worse yet, there really isn't an easy way to fix this (especially if the bottom side has already been riveted) When you order the new skin for the trim tab their description for the part literally says, "So, your #*!@ tab didn't quite come out the way you wanted it? Just use our handy trim tab skin and get the thing right next time." You think they know it's a poor design lol!

Long story short, somewhere in the build up of the trim tab, perhaps the initial bend to shape, perhaps when I had to hold it open to rivet or bend over the tabs, somewhere in there, the trailing edge bend isn't quite right and it's manifesting itself as a slightly short inboard portion of the skin. The pictures show it more clearly but here's what is going on and why it's not awesome.

The outboard portion of the trim tab skin, topside, (bottom already riveted closed) line up with the holes on the trim tab spar very well. When you lay the skin on the spar, the holes naturally lay on top of their match. The further you move inboard, the more the holes are mismatched naturally, IOW when you lay the skin down on it, it doesn't naturally match the hole below. They are close, but as it turns out, just far enough away to be a problem. You can easily get them to line up with clecos so at first it looks like everything is ok. But due to the structure of the trim tab, not having any internal bracing or ribs, if the holes along the top side of that spar are not pretty much dead on in alignment with their matched holes underneath, this causes the skin to be 'pulled' or 'pushed' in direction fore/aft just in that one little area. That little 'pull' in my case draws the skin on the inboard portion of the trim tab just slightly with more force which causes that portion of the skin to have less distance between the trailing edge and rivet line which thus introduces just enough uneven force to cause the warp that I'm seeing in the trailing edge. Since there are no internal rib to 'fix' the distances from the trailing edge to the rivet line, this is prone to happen if you're not careful with it. HEY VANs, HELP A BROTHER OUT HERE, MAYBE A BETTER DESIGN?? Wouldn't it be nice to have pre-made trim tabs! Hmmm... might go into business building trim tabs after all this lol...

So sigh..... I know that many, many builders build multiple trim tabs for various reasons, the little tabs on the end, warping of the trailing edges (in my case) or a whole host of other possible flaws. Now in my case, this little approximately 3/16" warp may not be a big deal, it may not even be a reason to build another one. However the tab bends on the outboard portion of my trim tab came out slightly curved as viewed from above. It's just the way the metal got folded over. I stared at that little gap between the outboard edge of the trim tab and the edge of the cutout of the elevator for a while this afternoon with the trim tab mocked up. I decided I could live with it, perfection is after all the enemy of progress in this process. However, once I realized the whole piece was slightly warped, well that tipped the scales in favor of a rebuild. It will give me a chance to fix all of my previous errors that I've made along the way of building the trim tab.

I read about all these people rebuilding their trim tabs and now I have a better understanding of why. You could argue this is partially Van's fault as the instructions for building the trim tab are lacking much in the way of detail and the parts themselves could be better designed. Anyone that builds a Harman Rocket (RV-8 on steroids) builds the trim tab using mostly the same parts except their trim tab is made from thicker sheet I believe and they add stiffeners to the inside of their version. Maybe I'll do the same, we'll see how the next one comes out.

So the learning curve on this one was steep. Turns out I can read about these issues all I want but until I experience them for myself, I don't seem to heed the advice. Here's what I will do differently on V2 after priming the part first:

1) Before bending the trailing edge or end tabs I will match drill and dimple the holes for the E-717 and E-718 control horns for the trim motor push rod
2) Then I will bend the trailing edge to final shape, I think I didn't bend it far enough on V1 figuring the rivets would make up for any shortcoming (not realizing that warping could occur if the bend isn't good enough). I will use the spar as a better guide and be a lot more picky about how close the bend rests to the spar naturally.
3) I will make sure the bend line on the inboard tabs has enough edge distance with the inboard most holes that attach E-717 and E718. The holes will already be there now so I can actually judge the distance before the tab gets bent over.
4) I will bend the bottom inboard tab to shape and then rivet on the control horns if I can (TBD), then bend the top tab to shape after those are riveted in place.
5) I will ensure a straighter bend line on the outboard tabs to give a better edge result.... I hope!

So lots of lessons learned on this, can't say you don't gain experience while going along on this journey. Fortunately I can get back to a few things on the elevators while I wait this week for new parts from the Mother ship. I still have to finish rolling the leading edges on both elevators, there is still fiberglass tips to add and both of the elevators need their trailing edges tweaked just a little bit as in most cases where the bend isn't quite right, they are underbent which is fairly easy to address, more squeeze!

Anyways off on a nice trip for a few days to Florida for work. Time to order those new parts and regroup.


 
Mar 03, 2023     Building out the trim tab - (1.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Time to start building the trim tab and closing it up. With the initial hinge fitting sorted out, now we can close up the bottom side of the trim tab. First off you need to attach the little 717/718 control horns that attach the electric trim pushrod to the trim tab itself. Simple enough right? WRONG! Lord this little task took forever and was not easy. First I decided not to use the aft most hole as it was too close to the folded edge. I just match drilled another hole a little ahead of this one and was able to use that instead. The problem with a few of these holes is that they are too close to the edge to get any sort of dimple die in there, there just isn't enough space. You could grind down (a rather expensive) dimple die to make one fit in there but that's a waste IMO. The new aft most hole I was able to get a pop rivet dimple die in there to make that dimple but the second one wouldn't even allow for that. On top of that trying to buck or squeeze these two rivets was going to be next to impossible. So pull rivets it was. The Mk319 BS rivets I just used on the other portion of the skin will suffice here. So only issue now is that the other hole, the one closest to the edge, again couldn't be dimpled. What I ended up doing was to use the deburring tool to actually countersink the receiving hole and the hole on the control horn. Not as accurate as using a cs bit but it worked ok. With that accomplished I could finish off those two holes with the pull rivets.

One thing I unknowingly did in this process is bent the aft most part of the trailing edge of the control horn for the longer one, so now it's sticking up just a tad. I was opening up the bend on the trim tab to get in and out of there and had the new hole cleco'd in place and didn't realize I was bending that little tab. I haven't decided yet what to do with it. Structurally it's fine, it's more of an appearance thing. I may just leave it or I may trim it off very carefully and clean it up. TBD.

So that little task took over an hour to sort out. The two forward most holes that attach those control horns get riveted through the little Z spar that holds the bottom of the skin in place so don't get in a hurry and miss that step. Now I could move on to riveting the bottom of the skin to the spar finally. Again it seems easy enough with a squeezer but after a few minutes of studying it, I realized there was no way to get the squeezer yokes I have in that tight space. Maybe there is a yoke squeezer shape that I don't posses that will work but my only option was going to be to buck all of them which I wasn't thrilled about. Very limited space to work with here and it's blind riveting. Fortunately you can rest a rectangular bucking bar up against the top of the spar if you have one that's the right shape. I have the little tungsten bar that I use on almost everything that worked in this space. To get the rivets going, the first one I had to use a shorter bar, more of a cube shape to set the first one, the adjacent clecos protruding through the piece make it a bit tight to get in there and again you can't see how the rivet is setting as you are hitting it. I did my best to set the first one and it came out ok. The -3 rivets are so easy to mess up due to their small size but fortunately the first one went in ok. From there I could remove a few clecos to the side I was riveting down and use the tungsten bar for everything else. I went slow and tried to take my time but by the end my hand was pretty fatigued trying to hold the bucking bar in place and put pressure against the action of the gun. I only messed up two of the rivets which I thought was pretty good given the circumstances. I was able to drill each one out without any problems and reset new ones properly.

So a lot of little tedious work on this section but the bottom side is done. Next is to move on to the ends and the top side.

At this point I'm tempted to order new parts and build another trim tab like a lot of builders apparently have. But if perfection is the enemy of progress, my work is acceptable to my standards and the accepted building standards so I will keep moving on. It's not the prettiest work but it will do.

Here's what I would do differently if I built another trim tab:
I would wait to bend the piece to final shape to do a few things first.
I would locate and match drill the holes for the two small control horns BEFORE I bent the end tabs down.
I would dimple those holes in the skin BEFORE I bent the end tabs down.
I would try to then rivet those control horns onto the bottom skin BEFORE I bent the opposite side (top skin) end tab into final position.

Doing the above would make riveting the control horns on much easier and faster.

Last thing I worked on was test fitting the top skin to the spar. The top side of the spar is the one that got countersunk last time around. Again the big gotcha is that you can get carried away with the countersinking on this thin material and remove too much. So I was very conservative. Turns out in multiple places I was too conservative and the skin with its dimples, even cleco'd in place, wouldn't nest inside the countersunk holes. So out came the deburring tool again and I began to remove more material in those holes with the deburring tool. I would just do one semi-forceful turn in each hole to remove material and then adjust the next hole, cleco everything back together and see how it fit. It took about 3 or 4 rounds of this to get all the holes to nest adequately inside their partner hole. I think if I was to do this part over, I would make the skin dimples as shallow as I could get away with. That would help to keep the countersunk holes from having to be as deep. In the end, it's all in order but again more work to get there. Next session we will close the top and ends up and we'll have a completed trim tab ready to be hung to the elevator.


 
Mar 02, 2023     Back to the trim tab - (2.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Back to working on the trim tab this afternoon. Cut a new length from the 6' section that I got from Spruce, dummy me also cut the hinge pin the same length as the hinge itself. DON'T DO THIS! Should have left the pin a wee bit longer as it needs to be secured so that it doesn't slide out. Oh well I have 4.5 more feet of hinge pin I can utilize. I just hate wasting material when I don't need to.

With the new hinge ready, it was time to get back to the fitting and drilling. Started by drawing a centerline down the middle of each hinge section. Used 3/64th of an inch instead of the 1/4" that the plans call for. Many builders report the 1/4" just isn't enough margin and not down the center and I agree, 3/64th's which no one is that good (I used 6/32's on my ruler) is just right. With that line drawn, I sorted out which direction the hinge was going to lay and measured the 3/8" from the outboard side of the lower/rear hinge section, the side that attaches to the trim tab via the trim tab spar. Made a little cross mark at this 3/8" spot right on the centerline that I had just drawn. Next I positioned the hinge underneath the trim tab spar and lined up the cross mark I had just made with the outboard most pre-drilled hole in the skin/spar. Then using the centerline down the middle of the hinge, I positioned the hinge so that the centerline showed through all of the pre-drilled holes in the spar/skin. It took a bit of back and forth to get it clamped at both ends to make sure the fit was good. I then removed the hinge from the trim tab and took it to the bench to drill that first hole. Since I had test fit the hinge first, I knew that first hole, the most outboard hole was in the correct position. From there I drilled the hole right on the mark. With that first hole complete, I put the hinge back in position on the trim tab/trim tab spar and once again clamped the opposite end down so that the reference centerline was visible through all the pre-drilled holes that are on the top of the trim tab and spar.

REMEMBER, the hinge goes underneath the trim tab spar and underneath the elevator cutout spar with the loops pointing downwards on the opposite side of where the airstream will be.

With all the positioning completed and the hinge cleco'd at one end and clamped at the other, it was just a matter of match drilling each subsequent hole and clecoing each hole as I went. I alternated one end to the other so as not to bend anything. I also made sure to drill the hinge with it completely assembled again so as not to bend or warp it.

Once that was complete, I finished match drilling the holes on the opposite side of the trim tab, deburred everything and dimpled the skin holes and the bottom holes of the trim tab spar. It was here I realized that two of the holes for the control horns were too close to the folded edge to allow them to be dimpled. There is so little leeway for that fold to be made that I'm not going to worry about it. Those two holes will get universal head structural rivets instead, although one has a side that is right on the fold so maybe a pop rivet, we'll see.

The top holes of the trim tab spar get countersunk so that they can accept the dimples from the skin above and leave a flat surface for the hinge to attach to below. The opposite side of the trim tab spar, the little Z shaped spar, just gets dimpled to accept the skin dimples from the sheet above. It gets a little confusing so you have to be careful here not to dimple or countersink the wrong side.

Not a huge fan of countersinking very thin material as the trim tab spar is. You can easily push too hard and remove too much material as I already did once on this elevator. Lessons learned from that failed endeavor are to first use some scrap to drill a few test holes to get the depth of the CS bit just right. Other tip is to drill pilot holes in a piece of wood or scrap so that the pilot of the countersink bit has something to fit into to keep it from wobbling back and forth and elongating the hole. This is what happened a few weeks back on the other spar that needed to be countersunk. So this time around I made the dimple just deep enough to accept the dimple without also enlarging the hole. This is a very fine line between too little and too much. After countersinking all the holes the first test fit revealed that a couple of the holes were not quite deep enough and I needed just a little more pressure on the drill to remove just a tiny bit more material.

With that all done, final task for the night was to prime the area on the bottom of the trim tab that the control horns will get riveted to. Since those two little pieces will cover up that part of the skin, I felt like it would be beneficial to prime that area so there are no problems down the road. So I masked off the basic outline of those parts and a quick spray outdoors finished that off. I also primed the holes that I had just countersunk on the trim tab spar as well. Only thing left to do is to prime the hinge itself since it is aluminum. I will get that done tomorrow and then I can begin assembling the trim tab for the final time and get it attached to the rest of the elevator. There is light at the end of the tunnel finally.

Still have to go back and finish the leading edge rolling for both elevators as well as rig and attach them together, plus fiberglass work so still quite a bit to be done.


 
Mar 01, 2023     More edge rolling - (2.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Couple hours this afternoon while the weather was nice to roll the middle section of the left elevator, the long sections like this are tedious as it can be physical work at times to motivate the aluminum to achieve the shape you want. Just lots of bending with different sized bars and different configurations.

I use curtain rods, steel conduit pipe, wood dowels and PVC pipe to get the shape needed. One technique that I use is from another builder like most everything we do. Take two pieces of pipe, lash them together essentially with zip ties, place the sheet metal in between the two pieces of pipe and bend. That keeps the sheet nice and straight and also keeps a nice smooth curve shape on the metal itself.

Lots of back and forth with the various arsenal of tools and after a few hour and my arms and hands nearly worn out, it was close enough to cleco together. Still not happy with the shape yet as there is some pillowing and it's still too much strain on the holes to make this the final fitment. I will let this sit for the night and hope the metal relaxes into this final shape a little more on its own. Will revisit this section again tomorrow.

In the meantime the nice UPS driver dropped off the new 6' section of hinges so I can get back to installing the hinge section tomorrow as well.


 
Feb 28, 2023     Rolling the LE leading edges - (1.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Waiting for the hinge to arrive in the mail, decided to start on rolling the leading edges. Pretty decent on the first short one and got started on the middle section. I have all sorts of tubes and tools to use and made good use of most of them. The curtain rods with the sockets in the end of them are very helpful here. Just a lot of massaging, bending, more massaging, bending, rinse and repeat until the shape is about right. It will never be perfect. Just so there's not undue stress on the holes when they're riveted together. I even busted out the rivet gun and used the technique used on the ends of the trim tab tabs to flatten them out. Worked great on one little section of the first rolled edge.

Didn't get too far, the second section is already being a pain so will have to try some different techniques on it tomorrow.

Pics below show several stages along the way as the bends get closer and closer to where they need to be. Used a cutout of the example from Drawing sheet #4 as a guide.


 
Feb 26, 2023     Trim tab madness! - (1.5 hours) Category: Empennage
Spent the last couple days working on the trim tab. Yesterday was pretty easy, just matchdrilled the two trim tab horns to the trim tab and trimmed them according to the plans for electric trim.

Then it was time to tackle the actual trim tab hinge which from everything I've read can be a bit tricky. So I decided to retire for the night and do some research. Fast forward to the next day and I still wasn't real sure on what exactly the directions wanted you to do. The goal is pretty obvious, attach the trim tab and elevator edges to the hinge and then join them together. What's not as obvious is the best way to go about this. The plans here leave a lot to be desired. I hear it gets worse lol....

Anyhow I watched a few videos, read a few build logs and finally was ready to do some fitting. First I needed to trim a bit off of the length of hinge as it's a bit too long. So a couple quick snips with the tin snips and then I tried to fit the hinge together..... Only to realize that I had trimmed the wrong end of one of the hinge halves. @#$% dang it! Well crap, now I've shot myself in the foot as there isn't enough length of the hinge left to fix this. I have extra hinge sections but none are long enough to use. So I will have to order another one. Vans sells them in lengths of 6" or 6'. Nothing in between. They must cut them to length for the kits from the 6 foot lengths. Aircraft Spruce is out of stock in all 5 of their locations, yikes. I can get one but the other vendors only sell them in 6' lengths and charge a extra fee to ship such a small thing in such a long tube. So sigh..... Such a simple thing and not paying attention will cost me several days and about $30 or more in payola...

So with the screw up I can either sit idle or work on something else, the fiberglass ends or roll the leading edges. Hmmm....neither of those sound real appealing to be honest. I guess I'll start rolling the leading edges of this elevator and the right side one if I have time this week. Better to get something done than nothing I guess.

 
Feb 21, 2023     Shortest workday ever - (0.1 hour)       Category: Empennage
Hey, progress is progress!!!

Got the #33 drill bit in this morning, and proceeded to drill each of those 6 holes getting the 319 pop rivets. Worked like a charm and set the six pop rivets. Still one end rivet to manhandle but this was all I had time for today.

Progress is progress!

Time to study ahead for building the trim tab and not screwing up the hinge.


 
Feb 20, 2023     Finishing up riveting left elevator skin - (2.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Good bit of work done this afternoon and evening. With the bottom side of the skin riveted closed, it was time to finish the other side. There's one little portion of the top side that you do not rivet at this point as the hinge for the trim tab must be included in the riveting of that section, so other than that, the rest can be closed up.

First things first, time to get some more RTV on the last of the skin stiffeners, the short ones nearest the inboard part of the elevator. With that goop in place I could proceed with riveting the skin on. I had a visitor this afternoon to help me out. Conner lives just a street away and is very interested in an aviation career and joining our EAA Chapter. He's already gotten to stop by my work and check out the jets that we fly so naturally he needed to stop over and see the RV-8 project. I coached him through setting a few rivets with the squeezer and he did great! Only problem was I forgot one of the rivets needed to be a longer 3-4 size so I set him up for failure lol. Totally my fault and I recognized it right away since it set so much shorter than than the surrounding rivets. This was out on the counterbalance skin area where there are multiple layers of sheeting needing to go together, really need to pay attention here as there are 3-3.5, 3-4 and even a few 3-4.5 sized flush rivets in this area. After dinner I finished the rest of the rivets in this area and started down the spar working my way around to the 705 rib. The hand squeezer makes it fairly easy and I find the lower weight of this tool vs. the pneumatic squeezer to be much less fatiguing so I tend to squeeze them all by hand if I can. My OCD really appreciates a long row of equally set shop heads!

With that done I finished the bottom side where the skin joins the trim tab cutout spar. Since I decided to make a little riblet for the end of the elevator cutout, I also had those six rivets to set. Stupid me, I threw a 3-3.5 rivet in there because that's what all the other ones were only to remember that I used slightly thinner material to make that little riblet and needed to step down to a 3-3 rivet instead. I think I tried to squeeze 4 rivets before I realized why they were all tipping over. Dumb, dumb, dumb!!!! I just laugh at these kind of mistakes now as all they cost is time fortunately and the #3 rivets are easy to drill out.

So after I drilled out 4 of those rivets I managed to set those 6 rivets as well as the two rivets adjacent to those that the plans call for the Mk-319-BS blind rivets. I could get to them with the no hole yoke that I have so I used a couple flush rivets instead. I also went back and drilled out a few other bad rivets from around the elevator.

I had a long hard look at those two #4 rivets that join the elevator spar to the outer ribs where the counterbalance sits. I had to drive those a few days ago with a double offset rivet set and at the time was happy with the results. Now that I had everything pretty much together and had the elevator sitting upside down in the jig, I could see a slight gap between the head of those two rivets and the material they were set in. Had a bad feeling about these as I realized drilling these out and fixing them would not be easy now that the skins were riveted shut. I realized that maybe a few blind rivets here would have been a better idea. Perhaps Vans wants the strength of a universal head rivet instead of pop rivets? Either way I remember encountering this before on the horizontal stab and there is a spec in Section 5 of the manual that talks about this. I have attached pictures of that spec and what I found to document that thankfully both rivets still meet the spec. Good cause that was going to be a giant pain to get those out of there. One of those cases where you could end up doing more harm that good so I'm glad we don't have to go there!

Last task for the night was to finish off the 6 remaining blind rivets using the Mk-319-BS pop rivets. I tried to insert one into the dimpled hole and it wouldn't go. Hmmm.... so I grabbed the drill with the #40 bit and give it a quick pass to make sure the paint wasn't interfering. It's fairly common to have to redrill a hole here and there as the primer adds just enough thickness to make the rivet not want to insert easily. So I tried the drill trick and still no luck. I pulled the calipers out and measured the shank of the rivet, 3/32" was the result. Hmmm.... checked the size of the #40 drill bit, 3/32"... What gives??? I switched the caliper to millimeters and sure enough, even though the inch fractional sizes are the same, they are not the same size as the rivet is a few thousands larger than the #40 drill bit. A quick check with Google and indeed, other builders have found this out as well and it turns out for this particular rivet, MK-319-BS, you do indeed drill and dimple for a #40 hole but then you need to enlarge the hole ever so slightly with a #33 drill bit. Of course I don't have a #33 size bit!

Slightly defeated after an otherwise good day in the shop it was time to call it a night and order the #33 bit off of Amazon. Because I'm impatient and just want to get those 6 rivets set and move on to finishing the trim tab, I ordered enough junk on Amazon to have the drill bit here by lunchtime tomorrow. Jeff Bezos gets more of my money than he needs to once again.....


 
Feb 18, 2023     Start closing up left elevator - (2.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
With the skeleton riveting done, it's time to begin riveting the skin to the understructure. This is basically a repeat from the right side elevator so I already knew the gotcha spots from the previous side. First things first I needed to finish dimpling the skin which I hadn't done to this point. One thing I did do differently this time is to go ahead and add the RTV to the ends of the stiffeners now before I riveted one side together. This allowed better access to those tight spaces at the trailing edge. With that done it was time to install the counterweight and its screws before wedging the end ribs underneath the counterweight skin and clecoing the skin to the entire understructure. Gotchas here are the different length rivets for just a couple holes where you have three layers of aluminum being riveted together. Surprisingly or maybe not surprisingly the instructions for the left side, including the technical drawing leave out some rivet call outs that are present on the right side drawing. I'm starting to understand just what Rian Johnson who created the drawings way back in June of 2001 was thinking when he made them. Why duplicate instructions or rivet callouts for opposite side structures if the construction is exactly the same. Less typing on his part I suppose or it's more of let's kick the builder out of the nest mentality and make them figure it out. Either way having the drawing for the right side elevator handy is very helpful.

With the skin and substructure clecoed together just needed to set about 50 rivets in that side of the skin. I will let the RTV dry overnight before starting to close up the other side of the skin. Starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel on the empennage and fortunately it's not a freight train trying to run over me!


 
Feb 17, 2023     Going to plan B, making a riblet and starting the final assembly - (6 hours)       Category: Empennage
Spread over two days, I was feeling pretty confident with my tab bending skills after completing the trim tab bends the days before. Figured bending the tabs at the end of the cutout on the elevator would go about the same. Set up the same way with a metal bar clamped to the workbench. Line drawn as per Vans instructions and used a block of 2x4 to bend the tab over. Looked great at first until I realized the bend line was not perpendicular with the trailing edge of the trim tab cutout. Test fitting the trim tab in place, the gap that was going to exist as a result of this slightly misaligned bend line was going to drive me and my OCD nuts for the rest of eternity if I didn't fix it.

So what to do? I could flatten the bend back out again using some bending pressure and the rivet gun to smash it back flat. But the more I thought about it I said screw it, TIME FOR PLAN B!

Riblet here we come. I had seen other builders use little ribs that they had created from spare pieces or made from scrap. The more I thought about it, it just makes more sense to use a small rib here to provide structural strength and to make life a lot easier. Bending those two final tabs over and trying to rivet them in place just doesn't make a lot of sense. Van's probably would do it this way if they went back and redesigned their earlier kits. For all the headache of trying to get those two little tabs bent just right, making a rib for that space instead just seems like a better way to go about it. One nice thing about using a rib is that I can fiberglass in that little area and build it up so that the gap between the elevator trim tab and the elevator is minimal and clean looking.

So a rib it is! Now where to find one that I could use. I have a lot of scrapped parts (like most of us) that I have sitting on a shelf. From this I found a couple potential candidates that were already drilled, dimpled and primed. Problem was going to be the hole placement and how to match drill holes to a rib that already has holes drilled.

So I messed around with the premade rib a bit only to decide to make my own after not like the hole spacing. Figured if I made my own I could control the location of the holes and make things easier in the end. So off I went to find some flat scrap to make a blank rib. The first one probably took me an hour to make. The small size made the bends a bit harder to manage but after a while and a lot of work, I had a rib that I could use. So I installed it in the gap, clamped it in place, marked a centerline for the holes and marked off three hole locations on each side of the skin to match drill. Everything was going great until the very last hole when I let the drill bit get just a little too deep and contact the rib on the opposite side, nearly drilling a hole through that side. This wouldn't have been a big deal except that my ooops hole was right next to the already drilled hole on that side. Airplanes being airplanes, things will vibrate all the time and that almost oops hole would probably cause the other hole to crack at some point. So crap, wasted about an hour and a half of work getting to that point only to dork it up doing something as simple as match drilling. No worries, it was late and was time to call it a night.

Got back to it this afternoon to make another rib from scratch. This one only took about 20 minutes to cut on the band saw, debur, sand, debur some more and shape. I was really happy with this one as it was actually fun to make. I test fit it into the gap only to realize that it wasn't nearly wide enough! Doh! In my enthusiasm for making the part, I had undersized the web of the rib just a little bit and it wasn't going to work. So back to the scrap to make riblet number 3! Only about 15 minutes to make this one and it was acceptable, still not completely symmetrical but good enough. The skin holes had already been drilled last night so it was easy enough to match drill this little rib in place.

With that done it was back to the plans to see where we were at. Time to start riveting the interior parts together. I recall this from building the right side elevator. Nothing too challenging, just a lot of universal head -4 rivets to set with the gun. First up was the two outer counterbalance ribs, made quick work of those. Then I made sure to study the plans for rivet direction since the next task was to rivet the doubler plates and platenut to the spar. 24 good rivets, or so I thought at first. When I flipped the part over, I saw that I creased on of the rivets going into an ear on a platenut. Dang it! Thought I had gotten them all without dorking one up. Oh well out it came, although it put up a good fight even after the head popped off. Happy that I managed not to enlarge the hole and quickly set a replacement rivet of the same size. Set the four rivets that join 705 to 702, then riveted the control horn on with the squeezer. Final part today was to set the four rivets that join the spar to the outer ribs that hold the counterweight. These four are a bit tricky due to their location and two of them require an offset rivet set which I recall using from the other elevator. I picked up a tip since I last used the offset set, use Gorilla tape or similar to tape the offset shaft in place to the gun so that it will not rotate while you are using it. This allowed me to set the rivet set exactly the way I wanted it to set these two tough to reach rivets without worrying about the set twisting or turning while hammering away. I also turned down the air pressure a little bit for better control.

One thing I tried today was to adjust the pressure regulator at the gun as opposed to the one on the compressor. I have never done this, I've always adjusted it at the compressor. The little regulator at the base of the gun seems to make a big difference in how hard the gun hits. As I've gotten more comfortable setting rivets, I'm more comfortable turning up the hitting power to set the rivets quicker. Seems to help keep them from tipping over. YMMV.

Got a lot of work done the last few days so it was a good place to stop and enjoy some family time. Will continue with the assembly of the interior parts and building the trim tab itself in the next few sessions.

NOTE TO SELF: DON'T FORGET TO ADD THE RTV TO THE TRAILING EDGE THIS TIME BEFORE YOU START TO RIVET THE SKIN ON!!!!!


 
Feb 15, 2023     Bending the trim tab - (1.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Time to bend some tabs. I've read up on this and watched several videos which convinced me to deviate from how Van's tells you to bend the end tabs. Instead based on a few videos and I think an easier way to do this part, I used a piece of aluminum bar, rounded on one end to fit into the trailing edge bend of the trim tab. First order was to get the bending brake out once more and bend the trim tab to its final shape. I made sure to cleco together the rest of the elevator parts to establish the final trailing edge shape of the elevator so I would know when to stop bending on the trim tab.

HERE'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY. The plans have you go ahead and bend the trim tab to its final shape on your press brake, then bend over the end tabs. Hindsight being what it is, I would wait next time around and bend the end tabs down first, then go back and bend the piece to final shape. Having said this, I don't know if having the tabs bend downward would interfere with putting the whole thing in the press brake and bending it to final shape. I guess that's why Van's has you bend it to final shape first.

With the trim tab bent to final shape it was time to bend the end tabs on each end together. Instead of using the shaped wood block method that Van's recommends, I had seen a few videos where builders simply used a strip of metal with a rounded edge and bend the corners over top of that. This looked much easier and based on my results, I would say it probably is a bit easier.

All in all, like all of the bending of the sheet metal, it always takes some tweaking and patience to get it to the final shape. My first bend was a bit off of where I wanted the trailing edge to end up but acceptable. I was able to just use a few different sized pieces of 2'x4's to help bend the metal using the metal bar as the bending point. I think it worked pretty well and gave good results. Again a little massaging here and there and I had the shape I wanted, not perfect but good enough. That was the bigger of the two ends.

The smaller ends seemed a bit more daunting due to the small size and tight spaces. I repeated the process and just couldn't get the very trailing edge to bend over like I wanted. So I got out the rivet gun as Van's recommends and using a low pressure and a flush rivet set, hammered on each tab until they were acceptable. This technique with the rivet gun helped so much I went back and used it on the larger end as well.

Again lots of massaging and using different techniques to get the bends right. In the end it wasn't that hard and I'm happy with the results. I haven't riveted anything together yet as I have to build the rest of the trim tab first so I won't know if they are acceptable until it's all built up but I feel pretty good about the results.


 
Feb 07, 2023     Final empennage parts primed, assembly of trim servo bracket - (2.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Before priming the parts this afternoon, I installed some J hooks into the garage ceiling allowing me to finally get the fuselage longerons and wing kit angle bars as well as the aluminum tube, safely up off the floor for storage. The longerons may be there for a while!

With any luck I have finished priming the final parts for the empennage, in this case the servo and trim tab pieces. The weather cooperated today and made a run at 60*F at one point with reasonable humidity so I was able to paint the final parts in the garage with the door open and everything dried fairly quickly.

Once those were dry, I was able to finish building the trim servo bracket by riveting the two Z brackets in place. As per advice on another builder's log site, I used the 3-3.5 rivets for the two forward most holes and a 3-3 rivet for the trailing hole that has the least clearance from the base of the servo housing. This seems to have worked well with just a sliver of free space between the shop head side of the two aft rivets and the trim servo housing. With that finished I located the 4 screws and locking nuts from the parts bag and installed the servo in its bracket and snugged everything up. Not too tight for now as it may have to come back out at some point. Last thing I did as per the instructions from the trim servo manufacturer was to use a 9V battery to check the continuity of the trim servo motor. Even after all these years of sitting on a shelf, 10+, it is working normally thankfully.

With that finally done, time to turn my attention to the tab bending on the ends of the elevator cutout and the trim tab itself. I have a friend that a few years ago handed my two pie slice pieces of hardwood telling me that I would need these eventually. Finally that time has come so I've already got the forms to use to bend the tabs. Just need to verify these will work for both the elevator cutout and trim tab itself.


 
Feb 06, 2023     Prep work on Elec Trim mount - (1.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Finished up prepping the parts that make up the trim servo mount. Based on advice I read on other builder's logs, I dimpled the front two set of holes on the cover plate for the Z brackets and just barely countersunk the aft two holes. If you look at the picture in this post, you can see there is barely any room for the shop head side of the rivet to sit with the trim servo sitting on top of it. The easy fix seems to be to countersink the front side, use a 3-3 rivet instead of the 3.5 called out in the plans and set it a little lower than normal until you get clearance for the trim servo. I may even throw some RTV in between that area as well as everything on an airplane vibrates and I can see that rivet ripping up the housing of the servo. I'll have to check the specs of the RTV I have to make sure it's safe to use on plastic.

One more piece of advice I found from another builder's log was to fit everything in place and check the alignment of the servo lead screw to make sure it was centered in the hole that is already present in the elevator spar. His advice was to do this BEFORE you drilled the attachment holes. Of course I didn't read this ahead of time, only after the fact but when I checked this evening, whew, dead center so no issues here. His post said that the Van's dimensions were about 1/8" off for making sure that lead screw was centered. I used the Van's dimensions and it came out perfect so not sure if he was using an older set of plans or what. The post was from 2011 so not sure.

With that done, it was time to clean up all the parts as well as the remaining parts yet to be utilized. I only want to paint primer one more time so I went ahead and edge prepped and scuffed all the parts that are left so that I can prime them tomorrow. I even managed to use the drill press for the first time and used my 1" deburring wheel with it which worked pretty well.

So all done for the night. Just need to clean parts tomorrow with denatured alcohol and acetone and prime. Hopefully for the last time with the empennage parts.


 
Feb 05, 2023     Work on elevator trim servo mounting - (1.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Not too much to log, just managed to get the trim servo mount mocked up and the attach holes located and drilled. Used the recommended dimension to place the Z brackets and that worked well. With that done, those parts need to be prepped and made ready for primer, so set them aside for now.

The other task for the night was to figure out how to mount the nut plates to the support bracket. I had already countersunk the holes for the nutplates just needed to dimple the screw holes that lead into the nutplates. That was easy enough with a small yoke squeezer. With that done it was time to rivet the nutplates in place. HERE'S A FREE TIP. Do this step BEFORE you rivet the support bracket in place for the left elevator. So way back in the first instructions for this side elevator, after you back rivet the stiffeners in place and BEFORE you rivet the support plate in place, you can skip ahead and attach these nutplates, it will be much easier to do.

Oh well, live and learn. I was able to squeeze all but one of the nutplate rivets. I just can't get to it with any sized yoke that I currently have. So that one will have to wait for a bucking bar when I rivet the other parts together.

That leaves the prepping of the parts for primer left to do for this step.


 
Jan 30, 2023     Wing kit inventory finished shop clean up - (2 hours)       Category: Workshop
Just a couple hours spent this afternoon putting all of the parts of the wing kit back into the various crates. I decided to cut the wing spar crate in half so that I could place it on top of the other bigger crate and get some more room back in the garage. I had to move a few of the parts indoors to the basement for storage as there just wasn't enough room for them, and a few other parts will need to be hung from the ceiling as they are very long. Vans sends you the fuselage longerons as part of the wing kit since it's easier to ship those in the wing spar crate than it is to ship them separately with the fuselage kit. So I need to find a spot on the ceiling to hang those from to keep them up and out-of-the-way because they're far too long to take down to my basement.

As for the wing kit, there were only a couple bags of hardware missing and a few odds and ends, and one piece, a gap filler for the ailerons, they sent two right side versions instead of one left and one right side version. So I emailed my findings back to Vans and will wait to receive those missing parts in the mail at some point as well as the other items which are on back order.


 
Jan 29, 2023     Wing Kit Inventory - (3.0 hours)       Category: Wings
Time to get the parts out and inventory the wing kit. Way more parts than the empennage kit! Only managed to get through the parts, still have to inventory all the hardware bags which takes forever. So far just a couple missing pieces of hardware, no biggie. Should wrap this up tomorrow and then I will need to put most of it back in the crates for now until I can build some larger shelves downstairs to hold everything.


 
Jan 28, 2023     Work on electric elevator trim system and a screw up.... - (3.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Started off my countersinking the holes for the nutplates. Somewhat delicate as there is not a lot of material to work with.

Unfortunately I thought I had a good handle on this trim installation, apparently not. Following my own hand written instructions, I got a little ahead of myself today and ended up drilling the wrong holes in the trim servo bracket plate. For some reason I initially thought that plate went on the inside of the skin. It goes on the outside of course so I dorked this piece up right off the bat which kinda derailed my progress for the day.

Fortunately for once, this is an easy part to reproduce and there was a piece of .032 scrap that come with the empennage kit that was the perfect size. So a little tracing, some cutting on the band saw and some edge deburring and shaping and I had a new part ready to continue. However I messed this new part up again by using the old part to match drill the screw holes. What I should have done is clamp the cover plate in place and match drill the screw holes from the backside using the already installed piece as the guide. So I realized pretty quickly that after spending about 30 minutes recreating this part from the scrap, that I had messed it up again by not match drilling the holes properly.

Round three...... So I made the part again, this time a little more carefully and back drilled the screw holes using the already installed piece as the guide. Unfortunately this used up all my free time for the day so it's all the further I managed to get.


 
Jan 28, 2023     Prepping for the electric trim servo install - (1.0 hour)       Category: Empennage
Nothing too crazy on this cold Friday evening. I decided to test fit all of the primed interior parts back into the skin just for my own sanity to make sure everything fits. The build instructions at this point have you install whichever trim system components that you have. In my case, when I bought this empennage kit along with all the tools 4 years ago now (yikes!) the whole package came with a few other components that the original person had purchased. This included the electric elevator trim kit from the Ray Allen Company. I had no input on this purchase, it just came with everything and I'm fine with it. I like to fly with manual trim in smaller aircraft as you can fine tune it very quickly. Electric trim systems can be clunky and not nearly as precise IMO but the benefit of not having to rig another control cable is also attractive and being able to have the trim switch as part of the stick grip is also a big plus so electric trim it shall be!

Here's really the first time in the build where Van's lets you go it alone. They have some construction drawings for either version of the trim as part of the larger construction drawing for the left elevator and that's it. There are no written instructions for the installation of these parts. So kids, we're on our own on this one. Not too challenging, just need to be double sure of measurements and fit before drilling. The electric trim kit consists of the trim servo, related hardware, nutplates and Z brackets to support the servo. All of this will fit into the small trim cutout on the lower side of the left elevator inner section.

So lacking instructions I spent some time this evening coming up with a plan of attack and actually writing out my own instructions. The nutplates will need their holes countersunk which I will need to do and then rivet on those nutplates. The attach holes for the trim cutout cover will also need to be dimpled and countersunk for fitment. I also spent some time this evening looking over other builder's logs on this set of parts. Since there's no instructions for this from Vans, Google is your friend and yielded some good results. After a review of a few different builder logs I have pretty good idea of how to tackle this little part of the build and wrote my own instructions accordingly.

Time to put the plans into action!


 
Jan 25, 2023     Finishing up left elevator parts - (1.0 hour)       Category: Empennage
Just a quick hour in the garage before work today to finish up a few of the parts for the left elevator, specifically the trim tab spar and some touch up paint. The trim tab spar is the one I dorked up previously and had to reorder. The last time around I was way too aggressive with the countersink and stretched pretty much every hole. Lesson learned. This time much more conservative and careful not to go too deep. Just enough that a #40 dimple would nest inside correctly. Other learning point was to make sure the piece was properly supported for the work to be done. So this time around I clamped it into the vise which helped a lot.

Just a few other parts needed a quick touch up with the primer so I sprayed those outside quickly with the rattle can and let them dry. No more paint booth so outdoors is my only option now even in the heart of winter! Now I have all the pieces for the left elevator together and primed, ready for riveting. The plans have you work on the trim setup of your choice here, either electric or manual, so that will be the next task and learning point.

Time to research the installation of the electric trim servo motor and supporting hardware.


 
Jan 23, 2023     Wing Kit Arrival - (.5 hour)       Category: Wings
My first official entry for the wings! ABF delivered the two crates right on time this morning. Fortunately for me, they brought a smaller truck and were able to back up right into the driveway which made offloading the two crates a piece of cake. I enjoyed a short conversation with the ABF drivers about the project and thanked them for the great service. Glad to have the crates safely home. Doesn't appear to be any damage.

14 months from order to delivery....... Vans gives you 30 days to inventory the kit, so that will be the next step with them and then they will stay crated up until I can finish the rest of the empennage.


 
Jan 23, 2023     Finishing prep for the left elevator - (7.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
A lot of work done on this snowy Sunday as I'm scrambling to get the last few pieces of the left elevator prepped and primed so that I can remove the paint booth to make way for the crates of the wing kit which arrives tomorrow!

Fresh back and still jet-lagged from my trip to Europe last week, I really didn't feel like working on the project today but I had no choice. So first thing was to get the garage warmed up. A few hours with the space heaters going got it up to a comfortable 60F which is doable. First step was to figure out where I left off and get my newly arrived replacement parts prepped and ready. I had to order a new end rib, new counterweight and a new rear spar, all of which I had messed up previously.

As far as drilling the new counterweight, same as before, used a #40 bit to make the initial pilot hole, then enlarged to #30 and finally #12 as required. After all the fuss and frustration with this part for the other elevator, I've come to believe that this is the best way to drill these counterweights. As far as the screw holes in the leading flange of the two end ribs, yes the pilot holes drilled by Vans could be a bit better placed but they will work as long as you drill your holes true and straight.

So with the counterweight drilled successfully it was time to move onto the two new aluminum parts and get them prepped which of course involves final sizing of the holes, fluting the ribs, edge and hole deburring and finally scuffing for paint. Easy enough to do just takes time which is why it took me until after dinner time to be ready to paint. Of course it snowed all day and by the time I was ready to paint it has mostly stopped but opening up the garage door enough to vent the paint booth is less than ideal. I was able to get two good coats of primer on the parts and call that step complete.

Next step was to take down the paint booth which has served its purpose very well since I constructed it a few years back. I'm not yet sure how I will approach the wings, if I will even prime them and if so, with what. For now, I can disassemble this current booth and prime the remaining pieces of the elevator on their own as needed. It is after all the middle of winter and getting the temp needed to paint successfully indoors can be a challenge so we'll see.

Gotta say that taking down the paint booth was a dirty nasty process as I did my best to keep all of the dried paint dust from getting airborne. Ended the night with that fixture from the last few years being gone and ready for tomorrow's big delivery!


 
Jan 09, 2023     Prep for paint and wing kit delivery date set - (1.0 hour)       Category: Empennage
Not much time today but still managed to scuff a few parts to get ready to paint. Leave for a few days of flying at work so this will be it for a few days until I get back home.

On that front I called the wing kit shipping company ABF (chosen by Vans) to make payment and schedule the delivery date for the wing kit since I will be gone for work for a week and didn't want to not be here when it showed up. So the delivery date is set for after I get back and the shipping has been paid for.

Note on the delivery invoice that Vans sent, it indicates that it will be COD on delivery. This IS NOT the case, they don't do that, I don't honestly know any company that does these days. So I had to make payment before I could schedule the delivery. Delivery includes a lift gate and hand truck. Gonna need some help getting the big crate up the driveway!

That will give me enough time to get the rest of the elevator pieces primed and then I can take down the paint booth to store the wing kit crates.


 
Jan 08, 2023     More prep work left elevator and a screwup - (2.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Continued with prep work on the left elevator including finishing the match drilling for the elevator skin and associated parts. Deburred and edge finished as many of the parts as I could while I wait on the new parts to arrive.

I got a little carried away on the instruction to countersink the top of the flange for the trim tab cutout spar. The plans have you dimple the side that will just have the skin sitting on it (easy enough) but then they have you countersink the other side of the spar which will take the hinge bracket that holds the trim tab in place.

Well........ I haven't used a countersink much as of late and I got a little carried away with it trying to make sure it would be deep enough to accept whatever sits above it. Before I knew it I had enlarged the holes from #40 to about #30 and on three of them, I let the countersink bit wobble apparently and elongated the holes. No worries I figured, I would just enlarge the #40 holes to #30 and make the corresponding changes to the skin in that area as well. Then I stared measuring edge distances for the three holes that I really messed up. I had already enlarged them to #21 size 5/32 figuring I would just use a larger rivet. However as I measured with the calipers I think I convinced myself that this actually wasn't a good idea after all.

So I'll order another one. If I'm lucky since Vans didn't process my order from Friday yet, I can just have it added to that order. Oh well, I still have about 8 parts I can paint tomorrow to still be able to make some progress before I have to leave on a work trip.

Lesson learned! Go easy on the #40 countersinking!!!! Doh!


 
Jan 07, 2023     Continuing on left elevator - (1.0 hour)       Category: Empennage
Not much time to today to work but I at least got the rest of the elevator skin matchdrilled. Next will be to take it all apart, debur, scuff and dimple in preparation for paint.

Milestone for me in this build personally, I actually managed to work on it for a full 7 days straight! Trying to keep the momentum going as the wing kit delivery day nears!


 
Jan 06, 2023     Back to the left elevator - (2.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Time to get back to the left elevator. Nothing too exciting. Just making sure all the parts are present, looking over the instructions and drawings, removing the vinyl backing and doing some work on the polishing wheel with some of the parts to prep them. I'm realizing now that I should have ordered the two new parts I needed for this left side last week instead of waiting until today. I need those parts now unfortunately. For now I can use the scrap 704/703 ribs that may or may not be salvageable. I'll have to wait to drill a new counterweight to see if the holes already drilled into the faces of 703/704 are usable. I think I know the answer already which is why I have replacements on the way but we'll see.

So in the meantime I can skip ahead a little bit which I don't like to do but there is some basic stuff that can done in the meantime. That involves mocking up the sub-structure and cleco'ing and drilling a few parts. This included the 705 inboard rib and the left side elevator horn as well as some of the skin. So it was still a productive night but I'm not sure how much further I can go at this point until the replacement parts show up next week sometime.

Progress is still progress so I'll take it. I did get another email from Van's today. It stated that the wing kit had left their facility and is with the shipping company and also that the kit is shipping with some parts on back order. So I'm waiting patiently to hear from the shipping company to see when the delivery is going to take place. Unfortunately I am leaving town for work in a week and will be gone a full week so I'm really hoping the delivery can take place before then. We'll see!


 
Jan 05, 2023     Right Elevator Riveting completed - (1.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Nothing too fancy or too difficult this morning. Just setting a bunch of the small 3-3.5 sized skin rivets. I thought about using the pneumatic squeezer for this job but that too is quite heavy and having to set this many rivets is quite fatiguing just with a hand squeezer let alone the big pneumatic version. I could buck them all but the small rivets are easy to tip over and you have to be very careful with the gun when you are setting this sized rivet. The squeezers are nice because they give you consistent results every time. Once you have the squeezer set adjusted you know you are getting the same result every time so that's why I just used that instead of bucking them.

So 50 or so small rivets attaching the skin to the spar and then just the PITA rivets on the aft end of the skin where it rests on the outside ribs. Those 4 rivets presented a bit of a challenge because there was not enough room in there to get even the no-hole yoke in there (initially). On top of that, there's not enough space in there to even get a descent sized bucking bar to buck those rivets.

I ended up using a combination of bucking and squeezing to set those four. The bucking bar I used is pictured below, very thin and it was actually pretty hard to get the rivet to even set just a little bit. That actually worked ok as I was able to initially buck the rivet in place to where it had expanded enough to hold itself in place and by that point that had created a big enough space that I could finish off the rivet with the no-hole yoke using the hand squeezer. So sometimes that's an option, start with a bucking bar and finish off with a squeezer.

Last steps for this elevator are to install the rod end bearings (2), finish installing the AN hardware to secure the counterweight and finally to roll the leading edges and pop-rivet them in place. I had to order a bag of AN960-10 washers from Spruce because I seem to have misplaced them, those get used under the nylon nuts to hold the counterweight in place. All of this can be done at just about any time so I am going to set this elevator aside and start on the left elevator asap because........

Because I got the notice from the mothership today that after nearly 14 months of waiting, my wing kit is shipping finally! So.... I need to hustle to get the parts for the left elevator prepped and primed so that I can take down my 8'x8'x8' paint booth to make room for the crate. As I mentioned in another update it's the middle of winter here (January) and I've already taken up one side of the garage with the build and we want to be able to put at least one car inside on cold nights or when we get a snow storm. So the rush is on to get this done before the ABF semi-trailer shows up next week to drop off the two crates.

Nice to be making some real progress for once.


 
Jan 04, 2023     Final assembly and riveting begins on R elevator - (3.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
With the elevator sub structure complete, it was time to begin putting it all together and getting it all riveted in place finally. First I needed to finish dimpling the elevator skin, the DRDT2 makes quick work of this BTW, highly recommended! With that all done it was time to fit the structure in place inside the skin including the counterweight and its supporting structure.

After the initial fit and much to my chagrin, the counterweight was still too big to fit inside the structure without causing a bowing effect due to the tight fit. So out it came and onto the vise it went to be filed down some more. Initially the fit of the pieces by themselves all mocked up together was good. However when everything went together including the skin, it was obvious that it was still a bit too tight to work. So just a little bit of work with some files and I had the size where it needed to be. I had to countersink the holes again since I took off a bunch of material off the front face.

With that complete it was time for another fit. Still tight so I used a little rubber motivation to get it to click into place. A couple whacks with the mallet was just enough to get the counterweight past the backside of the dimples and to get it to essentially lock into place. So it's now in there, basically no coming out now without removing a bunch of rivets first. Glad to be past that stage.

With that done it was time to begin riveting the skin to the substructure and the counterweight support structure. This is mostly accomplished with the 3-3.5 flush head rivets which are the most commonly used rivets for the skins. There are a few places in the counterweight support structure that need longer versions of that rivet due to there being several part layers needing to be fastened together. There are two rivets in this area that utilize a 3-4.5 sized rivet as they have to secure 4 different part layers on top of one another.

All in all the rivets all went in without a fight. I just used my hand squeezer for better control and managed not to mess any of them up. There are a few areas at the very rear of the skin on the inboard and outboard edges, 2 rivets on each half, one on top and one on the bottom, so four total rivets that I could not set during this session as I believe they will have to be bucked in order to be put in place.

That just leaves the leading edge rivets that attach the skin to the elevator spar as well as those four hard to get to rivets and that will close up the right side elevator. I did also add a dab of RTV sealant at the rear of each stiffener as per the popular guidance these days. In hindsight I should have done it earlier than I did this afternoon because it was a bit hard to reach.


 
Jan 03, 2023     R elevator sub assembly completed - (4 hours)       Category: Empennage
Finished all riveting of the right elevator structure this afternoon. This included riveting all the ribs to the main spar, the doubler plates to the front and back of the elevator spar which complies with Vans SB 14-02-05 as well as attaching the two platenuts. Final assembly was to rivet the elevator horn to the structure.

All in all went really well, only had to redo three rivets and have a good plan of attack for this series of steps for the left side when that comes up in a week or so. I also had a chance to use an offset rivet set today for the first time which worked well.

It's now time to finish dimpling the elevator skin and begin riveting the skin to the structure which will complete the major assembly of the right elevator. The leading edges still need to be rolled and pop riveted as well as installation of of the rod end bearings.


 
Jan 02, 2023     Final R elevator prep work - (2.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Just finishing up some odds and ends with the interior pieces of the R elevator. Most of the parts needed a quick second coat of paint. With that done, I concentrated on getting the counterweight completed. This involved trimming it to match the plans detail and then countersinking the holes with the new countersink bit. I was able to trim it on the band saw although it didn't seem to like cutting through lead even with enough lubricant. So not pretty but good enough and I finished the cuts with a file including radius'ing the interior edges. The right elevator needs less counterweight since it lacks the trim components of the other side. Fortunately I have several 'spare' counterweights to use as test parts to get the countersink depth correct. So that helped and was easily completed.

With the counterweight finally finished, it was time to start looking at the last few instructions. I realized I had gotten ahead of myself a bit with painting all the parts by this point. The rear edge E-713 which rests on top of the elevator spar and under the elevator skin, needed to be beveled. This is to prevent it from having that sharp 90 degree edge to it sitting underneath the elevator skin which Vans says could cause a stress crack in the underside of the elevator skin due to it vibrating over time. Just used the scotchbrite wheel to bevel the rear and inboard rear edges then a quick shot of primer to clean it up.

So that's it for the prep. Next session the final assembly begins.

Pictures are not uploading right now apparently even though it says they are.


 
Jan 01, 2023     It's been a while...... - (4.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Well lots of frustration mixed with lots of time off and away, being sick, working, etc. Just not a lot of time to work on the build plus time spent waiting on parts to arrive from Vans.

Easier to just sum up what little work there has been over the last two months. Today is the first day of 2023 and it was a productive one, I really just need to redouble my commitment to this project and really try to get to my goal of at least 10 build hours per week or it's never gonna get done.

First an update on the wing kit from Van's. Got an email on 12/22/22 from the mothership saying my kit was going to crating. That's the last I heard from them. Nothing gets done over the holidays so I'm not too surprised but I hope to hear something from them about the shipping arrangements this week perhaps. I have a feeling I will finally see the wing kit sometime this month, January 2023. That's literally the worst possible time for it to show up in the heart of the winter here. To be continued on that front. But at least there's light at the end of that tunnel finally.

As for the right elevator where I last left off. After screwing up the counterweights, I thought I had it figured out. In reality, I still didn't and managed to screw up yet another set of parts and a counterweight. So ordered more parts from Vans and waited. I fretted and fretted over drilling these stupid holes in the counterweights because of how much trouble I've had with them. Again IMO it would just be easier if there were no pilot holes in the front piece to have to go by. So after the new parts sat on the workbench for a few days I finally said screw it and just drilled everything through using the two pilot holes as the guides. You will see the results in the pictures but to make a long story short, the one hole is just a smidge tight to the webbing of the part but I can work with it. Worst case I use a slightly smaller washer or even grind down the side of the washer just slightly to make sure it fits nice and centered on the screw. In all this time I also realized I needed some dimple dies that I did not have for the #10 AN509 screw as well as a countersink bit to drill the counterweight. So a quick order from Aircraft Tool Supply and I have those on hand now and ready to go.

So after all the angst, all the frustration, all the cuss words and nearly two months, in a matter of minutes I just went for it and drilled the two holes in the parts and counterweights using the drill press. I don't know what all the fuss is about drilling through lead. It's very soft material and easy to drill. Use drill lube and it's a non-event.

So that left the parts to finally be prepped and painted which is what I accomplished this afternoon finally. So scuffing, dimpling and priming all got done today and now at least all the parts for the right elevator are painted and ready for final assembly.

At this point, it's a race against time to get the other elevator done before the wing kit shows up. If nothing else I need to get the parts prepped and primed for the left side so that I can disassemble the paint booth and free up garage space for the wing kit crates.


 
Nov 03, 2022     Right elevator work, counterweight chaos!!!! - (8.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Combination of about 8 hours worth of shop time over a few weeks time. In that time, progress has been slow. I needed some parts from Vans to comply with the elevator spar service bulletin that adds doublers to the opposite side of the left/right elevator spars where the attach bolts go in. Again I'm working from a kit that was manufactured in 2011 and this SB is from 2014 so did not contain the parts needed. So a week's delay to get the parts and I was able to add them to the build and document that this was completed. Nothing special here just some doubler pieces to be prepped and drilled.

With that finished it was on to the lead counterweights. Not trusting myself to drill a straight hole through an inch plus of lead, I needed to pick up a drill press first. A trip to the local China Freight store and I had what I needed. With it all set up and having read a number of build logs on the best way to do this, I followed the directions and used the E-714 part to mark the counterweight for the location of the holes. Here's where the problem started. First you have to drill two #12 sized holes through four different parts, in three layers. This includes the E-714 counterbalance skin, the E-713 counterbalance weight and the flanges of the two end ribs, E-703/4. The plans say to use the small pilot holes that Vans drills in the end of E-714 as a guide to be able to drill the final sized holes through all three parts. Well this all sounds easy enough however it's never that easy! In my case, the pilot holes didn't provide the necessary distance for the #12 hole to be drilled in the flange of the E-703 part. The holes are too close together and don't give adequate edge distance clearance and more importantly doesn't leave enough room for the washer to fit on the backside of the flanges. So I only realized this AFTER I had drilled both holes in the lead counterweight. So essentially this first counterweight was no good any longer since the holes would not align with the flanges that they will be screwed to. So that was a lot of frustration but a quick visit to the Vans store and a new counterweight and new E-714 part are on their way. No worries because there are two sets of these parts, the other set for the other elevator so I can keep working and just use the other set of parts to fix everything while I wait for the new parts to show up.

Fast forward a few days and I'm ready to try this again. This time I'm smarter and have a better plan on how to tackle this. I carefully drew centerlines on the flange faces of the tip ribs and made sure I would have adequate distances. I drilled another set of holes with the drill press and then proceeded to match drill the corresponding holes in the flange faces. I lined the counterweight up on the flanges and used the screw that will hold it in place with a dab of torque seal on the very end to push through the counterweight and make a witness mark on the front face of the flange. This worked great and I repeated the step for the second hole. This is where I lost my ever loving mind because once again, despite my best efforts, the hole in the counterweight is still too close to the inboard edge of the flange and not only is there not enough edge distance but when I test fit the nut and washer, I quickly realized the the hole location in these two flange faces MUST drive the hole locations in the counterweight and the face of E-714!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So I've now screwed up both counterweights and may have to order yet another one. The other option is to melt the lead down and fill the holes. Not sure I want to mess with that just yet.

So after all of this, here is what I learned and here is where (if you're reading this) can save you a lot of stress and grief. The Vans instructions for this step are crap. Sorry but they are. They tell you to use the two pilot holes to drill the holes in all three parts. In my case this didn't allow the hole to fall on the face of the flange in the proper location. They do not allow for variations in parts and hole locations. Unfortunately following the directions to a T here set me up for failure which is why this is so frustrating. I feel like calling Vans and asking for a new counterweight for free since the directions are so poor here. I swear this is how they make their money by using vague directions and having their customers having to order new parts again and again.

Anyways this is how I will do this once I get the new counterweights. First mark the center point of the forward facing flanges of E-703/4. Go ahead and drill the #12 holes in those flanges. Use those holes as your guide to drill through the lead counterweights. So basically with those holes in the forward flanges, cleco everything back together, then simply trace the outline of your holes on the counterweight. Then take the counterweight and drill the holes in it. With the holes drilled, again cleco everything back together again and once again mark the location of the holes in E-714 using the two previous sets of holes as a guide. An easy way to do this is to find the screw from the bagged parts that is used in this location, dip the end of the screw in some torque seal, place the screw from the backside through the flanges of E-703/4 and through the holes in the counterweight. Press lightly and remove, voila you have a perfect witness mark from which to drill the #12 hole in E-714. Doing it this way will guarantee perfect alignment of the three holes and the screw/nut that will eventually hold them in place. IMO this is a few more steps but consider the alternative which is what I'm doing, having to order two new counterweights and having to screw this up twice to finally figure out a good way to do this. Oh well, live and learn.

For now I've got part to debur, dimple, scuff and prime so plenty of work while I wait on a new counterweight and decide if I want to have a go at trying to melt the other one down and recast it. The older model vans didn't come with pre-shaped counterweights, the builders had to cast their own so I have no room to complain!


 
Oct 03, 2022     On to the right elevator - (8.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Combination of about 6 days of work in the shop off and on over the past month. Still in cruise mode as the wings are still 3-4 months away from being delivered. These sessions focused on prepping the right elevator skin and stiffeners for installation and riveting. So more basic stuff, edge prep and deburring, dimpling, paint prep, priming, back riveting, etc. With all the pains of back riveting on the left elevator, the right elevator stiffeners all went in without much fuss and this time it only took about 15 minutes to set all of those rivets, about 55 if memory serves correct.

With the stiffeners in place, it was time to bend the trailing edges of each elevator skin to their final shape so that they lay flat on the spar with no tension. This is the same process that is used on the rudder that I completed nearly 2 years ago and the painful memories of how I struggled with that step were all too present. Fortunately those lessons which had been learned the hard way meant that this time around it was not a big deal so gently bend the trailing edges into position.

With that done, I began a search for a part that I could not find anywhere. E-0001A&B are called for in the plans to be radiused and then cleco'd to the elevator spar. I couldn't find this part anywhere in my inventory. A quick Google search revealed the reason. This set of parts is from a Vans Service Bulletin issued in 2014 for all RV-4, 6, 7 and 8 models. The date is key because my tail kit was manufactured in 2011 and as such, did not come with these parts. The plans I am using are the latest plans which call for these parts to be installed as part of the build since this SB is now incorporated into the build. This is the same issue I dealt with while building the horizontal stabilizer. So I was already familiar with blending parts from 2011, 2014 and the most recent plans.

So a quick visit to Vans webstore and I have the parts for this SB on their way to me in a few days. With that mystery solved for now, I went ahead and prepped the two end ribs that go on the outside of the elevator and form the structure to hold the counterweights. This involved edge prep, straightening and fluting of these two small rib pieces. The plans have you complete that and then cleco them into place on the elevator. The holes took a bit of coercing to get into the right spots but eventually they all lined up and each was drilled to final size.

That makes a good stopping point as I wait on the new parts from Vans and at this point, I probably need to think about acquiring a drill press to properly drill the counterweights. I've managed to get through the build so far without one but it might finally be time to invest in one as they have quite a few uses.


 
Aug 30, 2022     More delays for the wings       Category: Wings
Well bad news from Vans last week, the wing kit will be further delayed by another 4-6 months.... Very frustrating but they are having issues with their suppliers and especially the company that they sub-contract out the work for the main wing spars to. What are you going to do? Gotta have the spars to even begin construction of the wings. So this really throws the planning off. I thought I would begin on the wings this fall. Now it's going to be after the first of the year, at the earliest. Building in the heart of the winter isn't easy and I'm not sure how much I can accomplish for those few months assuming there are no further delays to the delivery schedule.

At this point (Sept 2022) standard wing kits are running 14-18 months for delivery, fuse kits for the 8 about the same. Quickbuild kits are even worse running 2+ years right now to get.

Good times!


 
Aug 29, 2022     Continued work on elevators - (16 hours)       Category: Empennage
Plans have you at this point back rivet the stiffeners to the elevator skins. In order to do that you need to prime the inside of the skins and prime the stiffeners. Also for the left elevator you need to rivet the trim tab cutout doubler plate to the inside of the skin as well. So nothing too exciting here, just work. Priming the parts was easy enough.

So as not to confuse left and right stiffeners, I decided to just do the left elevator first, starting with one side of the interior skin and then priming and riveting the opposing side. With the first batch of stiffeners painted and the skin painted, time to bust out the back riveting set and plate. Plans have you rivet the trim cutout doubler plate on first. I couldn't really see a good reason to use the back rivet set for these so I just bucked them with a bar. I've gotten comfortable enough to prefer that method over all the others, funny how your opinion changes over time and you get better and better with riveting. Unfortunately to make a long story a bit shorter, I failed to identify all of the holes that needed to be drilled and dimpled to attach the backing plate and started to rivet it together before I realized what I had done. Dumb, dumb, dumb..... Easily avoidable if I would have been a bit more careful! To make matters worse, after I corrected my initial mistake, I STILL didn't get all of the holes dimpled that I needed to attach the doubler plate AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! Literally spent 45 minutes drilling out rivets after previously spending about 20 minutes drilling out the first set that I placed prematurely. Trying to dimple a hole that you basically have no access to is a challenge to say the least especially when it's two pieces of AL stacked together. So this whole ordeal took the better part of my free time that day.

A word on back riveting. It is used to make sure the skin stays as flat as possible to the piece/s being riveted to it. So the doubler plate was supposed to be back riveted as well but it was easy enough to just buck with a bucking bar. Should I have back riveted it instead?? Good question, I see no difference in the final result in what I did versus using a back riveting technique.

Moving on to the stiffeners..... Next day was spent trying to back rivet the stiffeners to the one side of the interior skin. After researching my back riveting technique and getting some info off of VAF, I started with a very low air pressure setting on the gun. This initially worked well for the four or five half-sized stiffeners near the trim cutout. I did tip a couple over and yet again spent time drilling them out. After a couple days of screwups I got really good at removing 426 type rivets! Then it was onto the larger stiffeners and that's when the problems started. Seems like out of each row of back rivets 2 or 3 were either smeared or tipped over. Very frustrating as the time that it took to correct them is not insignificant. At one point I said screw it and used the bucking bar to set almost an entire row with acceptable results. That's when the doubt started to creep into my mind about what was really the best way to attach these stiffeners. Vans is obviously calling for them to be back riveted for a reason. I just hadn't figured out that reason quite yet. So this mental struggle continued the rest of that day, setting with the bucking bar until I realized that doing it this way truly was not the best way to ensure the stiffeners lay perfectly flat against the inside of the skin. So realizing that, once again I found a few perfectly set rivets that I needed to drill out and use the back riveting set for to get them in contact with the skin beneath. That was a very frustrating day. There will be more I'm sure.

Next day I began anew and decided to make this back riveting work come hell or high water. Frustrated with the results of the back riveting, I switched the set out to an offset back riveting set but the results were even worse. Then it dawned on me that maybe increasing the air pressure would help. All week I had read on VAF about how other builders were using very low air pressure on their back riveting. Well for whatever reason, the low pressure wasn't doing the trick for me. So lightbulb moment, up the air pressure you dummy! I was using about 25 psi to start. I bumped that up to 40 psi and the results still were not acceptable, a couple more tries and I finally settled on about 60 psi and that seemed to be the key.

So I just wasted probably a day's building time messing around with a back riveting set using (for my setup) too low of an air pressure for my gun. At 60 psi (which is a lot btw) I could set each rivet with about a 1/3 second burst of the gun. One bust and each rivet set just about right. I had to go back and hit a couple an extra bit but overall, it went much much faster at this pressure setting for me. That just left the very last rivet at the trailing edge of the skin to set which is a bit harder due to the bend of the skin. I messed up one or two of those but by now I'm an expert at removing these rivets.

So with the one side of the skin's stiffeners finally in place, I prepped and primed the remaining stiffeners and back riveted those in place without too much of an issue. Still a few tipped over but I was able to fix those or replace those as needed. That wrapped up the left elevator (for now) and it went back inside to the parts shelf.

Time to rinse and repeat this process for the right elevator in the next few build sessions.


 
Aug 06, 2022     More work on R/L elevators - (7.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Back from Oshkosh after a great week! Lots of inspiration to be had up there, makes me want to work harder and longer but the lead times are controlling right now and you have to work with what you have!

Back to work on the elevator stiffeners. After cutting and cleaning up the right elevator stiffeners, per the plans I made the left side stiffeners as well. Here the plans are a bit wonky and tell you to make a set of three stiffeners for the left elevator from your existing D, E and F stiffeners for the right elevator and then to trim each one of those by a set amount. The instructions on how to trim and how much to trim are on the construction drawings from both the left and right elevators and the whole task is a bit unclear. So instead I just cleco'd all the left side stiffeners in place, match drilled and drilled the holes as required and then manually trimmed those three sets of stiffeners for the left elevator. Seems like a lot of instructions, confusing instructions at that, just to get a few stiffeners made. If you follow the trimming instructions to the letter you will not have enough edge distance for the most rearward hole on a few of the stiffeners. The goal is to not have those 6 stiffeners too long to the point where they would contact the trailing edge folded surface. You really don't know how long they should or shouldn't be (other than what the plans call for) until you rivet them in place and then bend the trailing edge to its final shape. However with close attention I can judge that there will not be an interference problem once the trailing edge is bent to final shape so I'm happy with that.

Stiffeners, simple little angle pieces but takes a lot of time and effort to create them, clean them up, match drill them and then debur them. In all I probably spent 4 hours just shaping, edge deburring, hole deburring, shaping some more, match drilling and deburring the holes on the left elevator. Easy but time consuming. The right side stiffeners were created a few days ago but I still need to go back and debur the holes (will come back to that later).

The plans now have you remove all the parts and prep them for dimpling and primer. The plans also have you add the elevator trim port doubler to the left elevator at this time and match drill that and debur it as well. In order to keep all the stiffeners organized and to keep them from getting mixed up, I will concentrate on priming the left elevator interior skin and stiffeners, along with the trim doubler first. Then I'll go back to the right elevator.

The plans are sort of all over the place at this point with going back and forth between both elevators but they're just trying to knock out the stiffeners for both of them at the same time to make life easier down the road. After both elevators and stiffeners have been primed, then it's back to concentrating on the right elevator and completing that.

This work session ended with all of the left elevator components ready to be prepped for paint and dimpling.


 
Jul 17, 2022     Starting on the right elevator - (1.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Just some quick work to get going on the elevators. Plans have you start with the right side. You start by cutting to length all of the stiffeners for both the left and right elevators. You end up with two sets that are not identical as the left elevator structure now slightly different to accommodate the trim tab.

Stiffeners cut and separated. I will leave the vinyl on the left side set so as not to confuse the two sets.

Spent the rest of my short time trimming a few of the stiffeners on the band saw and cleaning/deburring them on the scotchbrite wheel.

Same exact process as was done for the rudder. Gotta watch the edge distance on the front holes, very easy to buff too much material off.


 
Jul 16, 2022     Vertical Stabilizer Finished! - (4.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Finished up riveting the VS over the past two sessions. I was eventually able to set all of the perimeter rivets using the squeezer, there were a few hard to reach ones which I switched to the 4" 'no hole' yoke to get the job done. Then there were the 4 rivets adjacent to the middle hinge bracket, I think I drilled out 3 of those 4 rivets trying to get in there. There is little room to work in there for a bucking bar or squeezer for that matter. What I ultimately ended up doing was to use the no hole yoke and just set them very slightly, a little bit at a time. Eventually once the rivet shank compresses, I had enough room to set the rivet properly. Kinda frustrating but there's a lot of that in this journey.

With those finished up, that just left the three lower joint rivets and the three middle ones which used pop rivets. All done with the rivets and time to clean and pull the vinyl backing off finally! Just a little touch up paint as well to cover some dings and scratches and a good cleaning with denatured alcohol to get rid of any residual glue or adhesive from the vinyl backing. BTW the denatured alcohol will take off the primer paint, don't ask me how I found this out..... Ugh!

Time to find a place to store this part and look forward to the elevators. We leave for AirVenture 22 a week from today so won't be much progress till we get back.


 
Jul 14, 2022     VS prep and paint, dimple, begin final riveting and an ooops! - (4.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Last entry left off with getting the VS skin prepped for primer. With that done, paint went on (out of practice for painting, not my best work!). Studied instructions/plans and realized that what I had thought earlier was going to be no big deal, turned out to be a mistake on riveting of the VS ribs/spar and had to be fixed before I could continue.

A year ago I would have freaked out over how to fix this. Things come a little more naturally now and it's more of a "how much time is this going to cost me sort of thing" nowadays. Only problem was I needed to drill out two rivets that I had already set, one of them was the one that I cracked in half the first time I riveted them, so this would be the second time I've had to drill out the rivet in this hole location. Had to be really careful not to elongate the hole. Fortunately with a good bit of patience and having experience under my belt, I was able to gently drill and pop the heads off the rivets and then remove the shanks without enlarging the holes at all. So that was a win in my book. BTW, don't do what I did, I prematurely riveted the top rib VS706 to the rear spar. Got a little exited to do a few simple rivets with the squeezer after riveting parts of the rest of the frame. Didn't read far enough ahead in the plans, doh!

With that rib separated once again from the rear spar I could insert the frame into the skin. I went ahead before I even drilled out the rivets and test fit all the pieces anyways, I like to know if I have a fitment issue before I get too far along. Everything lined up well so I proceeded with the rivet fix and then was left with the proper parts to insert inside the skin for riveting.

Manual says to start the 3-3.5 rivets at the middle rib/front spar intersection and work outwards from there so that's what I did. Memories of riveting the horizontal stab came flooding back! The -3 rivets are so small, very easy to overdrive them. Low air pressure on the gun is important, I run about 35 PSI for these size rivets and the gun allows me to feather the action to get it started which helps a lot. So after a couple hours, all the interior skin rivets had been set with none needing to be removed and replaced so that was nice.

This was a good place to leave off for the evening, time for our EAA Chapter meeting this night and off to AirVenture next week. Just need to squeeze perimeter rivets with a squeezer during the next work session.


 
Jul 03, 2022     Getting back on the horse!!!! - (4.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Holy cow..... 4 months since the last update.... Ugh!!!! Life!!!!!

Well back at it after a lot of life events, international trips at work and just very little free time. So here we are back to working on the vertical stab. In the last few months, the ribs and spars were primed and made ready for finally assembly. That's about all I was able to accomplish. Have I ever mentioned that I really don't like the priming process? Thinking about not even priming the wings. We'll see.

First task was to rivet the spar doubler to the "rear spar"..... We'll get to that in a second. The bottom section of the assembly, along the bottom of the "rear" spar has you set the rivets flush so that this section can be bolted onto the aft fuselage later on in the build. So that required carefully noting which rivets those were and dimpling the skin of the spar and countersinking the spar doubler as it's a much thicker part. The dimpling was easy and after a few trial and error holes, the countersink bit was set and the rest of the holes were drilled to fit their corresponding dimples. With everything complete, the parts fit together snugly.

With that task complete, it was time to bust out the rivet gun, fire up the compressor and try to remember how to rivet as I haven't done that in about 6 months. Much to my surprise, I still had the touch and managed to set 65 clean rivets without having to redo a single one. I finally feel like a actually have a feel for it now and almost enjoy it. So that part went well.

Now let's talk about the "rear" and "forward" spars of the vertical stabilizer. Here you have to be very careful as the technical drawings have the orientation backwards as it relates to the actual aircraft. So for the construction on this whole assembly, the larger spar, the one with the doubler, is actually considered the rear spar even though it sits forward of the other spar, the one Vans refers to as the "forward" spar.

This led me to have an oops, fortunately for me, it's one that will not cause me any issues when it comes time to put the skin on, so I got lucky. The next set of instructions are to rivet the VS 704, 705, 706 and 707 pieces to the front spar. That's literally the way the instructions read. SO BE CAREFUL HERE!!!! THE 'FRONT' SPAR IS PART NUMBER VS-702, not VS-803PP. All Vans would have to do to prevent this confusion is to add that part number, VS-803PP to that line of instructions.

So anyhow I went ahead (before I realized my mistake) and riveted, or tried to, rivet VS706 to VS-803PP. That's the top rib, just two rivets, piece of cake right... I had just set 65 rivets without an issue, why bother doing anything differently.... WRONG AGAIN!!! These two 470 4-4 rivets are small enough and easy enough to set with a hand squeezer, which is what I should have done to start with. Instead I tried to buck them with the rivet gun and not only did I crease the head of the rivet, I actually cut it clean in half, that's a new one for me.....

So how do you drill out a rivet missing half its head....? Fortunately I was able to slowly and carefully drill it out from the shop head side (opposite of what you'd normally do) and with a little patience, get the rivet out cleanly without enlarging the hole. So with that out of the way, I was able to set the two rivets easily with a hand squeezer. Geez, another tough lesson learned the hard way.

But I was proud of myself as in trying to set the rivet the first time with the gun and literally cutting it in half, this left this part of the rib slightly bent out of shape. I just happened to remember a tip I read somewhere to take two flat rivet sets and put them in your hand squeezer, use those two flat sets and gently squeeze the area flat again, this worked like a charm and I gave myself a mental attaboy for remembering this.

It was after this that I started referencing the next rib to rivet on and noticed that the technical drawings were calling for blind rivets to be used. This made no sense to me as I was easily able to access the rib and spar. Fortunately I know enough now that when the plans call for something you don't think is correct, there's usually a good reason. So I asked on FB and almost immediately got my answer. That answer as I described above was that I was reversing the spars, I thought the "rear" was the aft spar when in reality for the plans and construction of this part, it's actually the "front" spar. You can't rivet the ribs to the larger spar yet as you first need to rivet on the skin. You don't have access to the back side of this joint once the skin is in place, hence the need for blind rivets in this location. Again, Vans was right, I was wrong. I'm getting used to that.

So that was a good place to stop for the night. In a few hours our neighborhood would be a war zone as people celebrate Independence Day, It was good to get back at it.

Vans says that the wing kit will be here in either August or September. We'll see. Oshkosh starts in three weeks, it will good to be back after the pandemic and missing last year.


 
Feb 01, 2022     Finished mocking up VS - (1.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Nothing too exciting, finished mocking up the VS by cleco'ing all the parts together and match drilling all of the #40 skin holes. The reason it wasn't fitting well the previous outing was due to the fact that I had installed the rear spar backwards. Oooops! Won't be the last time I'm sure. Death by clecos and #40 holes this evening. My hand will be sore tomorrow!

With this all complete, time to disassemble everything and finish prepping the parts for paint and final riveting. Another big winter storm is due here over the next 48 hours so that will give me something to do as paint prep is about my least favorite activity.

A final look at my Van's calendar for the month of January. The blue stars track my work days, easily my best month of work yet in the now three years I've had the kit?!


 
Jan 28, 2022     More work on the VS - (3.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Couple different evenings worth of work on the VS. Nothing too exciting, prepping the ribs by edge deburring, fluting and making sure the flanges are perpendicular. I actually did most of that indoors in our kitchen as it's still really cold outside these days and the garage at best only gets heated to the mid 50's for temp. My method for fluting involves using a piece of dental floss stretched from one end of a rib to the other through the first and last holes to check the alignment of the holes. I flute each side until the holes line up with each other guaranteeing a straight rib.

With the ribs done I was able to assemble the internal structure for some initial match drilling of all the #30 holes on the rib structure, front and rear spars. Again nothing too exciting and I finished the night by retrieving the VS skin from my parts rack in the basement and started removing the vinyl backing.

This evening I started by removing strips of vinyl from the outside of the skin using the wood burning etcher tool that I made for this purpose. Between that and a straight edge I get some eye pleasing cutout lines to work on the skin while still protecting the majority of it. With that done I began the process of cleco'ing the skin to the internal structure. There are lots of holes to fill and it didn't fit great in certain places and took quite a bit of adjusting to get the holes to line up. I spent probably 30 minutes adding clecos and trying to get everything to line up. I got most of the way but the top portion of the skin (top of the tail) the holes just are not aligning easily so I decided to stop there for the night and continue later on. I will remove all of the clecos so that I can rework the two spars as their flanges do not sit perpendicular in a few places which is what's causing the alignment issues I am dealing with this evening.

I'm dragging my feet a little bit waiting on the outside temps to warm up a bit. Next week we're supposed to have a few days in the mid 40's outside which is 20+ degrees warmer than what we've had lately. I'd like to time it so that I'm ready to prime the parts on those few days which should be doable. We'll see.


 
Jan 25, 2022     Back to Work/Start on the Vertical Stab - (3.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
I needed to build some new shelves to hold the HS and the Rudder. Previously I had the rudder hanging on the wall but I realized the HS was almost too big to hang anywhere in the garage. So a few trips to the home improvement store produced a couple sets of shelves to store the parts on. With that done, it was time to go downstairs and pull all the parts for the vertical stabilizer (minus the skin).

It feels good to be starting on a fresh part after spending over a year on the horizontal stabilizer. It also brought memories of just how this whole process goes. First steps were to remove the vinyl from the front and rear spar and then cleco the front spar and spar doubler in place as well as cleco in place the brackets that hold the rudder. I couldn't for the life of me get the #30 clecos to go through the brackets. It was driving me nuts until I remembered that the brackets are powder coated which leaves the pre-drilled holes a little bit undersized. A quick once over with a #30 bit and everything fit like it should. This was a good stopping place for the evening as the next steps are to prep the ribs which involves flattening them with the fluting plyers and making sure the flanges are perpendicular to the rib.


 
Jan 17, 2022     Horizontal Stabilzer Done! - (3.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
It's all done finally (except for the fiberglass tips). Nothing special to share, just more of the same, squeezing lots of -3 rivets with the hand squeezer. Slowly worked my way around the rest of the outside, the tips and the interior portion of the skins. To get the last 4 rivets on each of the top and bottom of the tip rib as well as the last rivet on the nose of the interior section, I had to switch to the 4" no hole yoke which worked great.

With all the skin rivets set finally, and what a nice feeling that was, the last items were to set the four remaining rivets in the back of the spar doublers that attach the rear spar to the inboard ribs and then finally blind rivet the rear spar to the two aft middle ribs. I messed up one of the 4 universal head rivets but was able to quickly remove it and set a new one without any problem. Last step was the 4 blind rivets which took me a few minutes to find in my hardware drawers as I've only ever seen these pop rivets once before when I was inventorying the kit. I was starting to get worried that I didn't have them but eventually I found them in one of the many drawers and set them without issue.

So that's it! The H stab is done finally. Looking back it took just over 13 months and about 100 hours of build time to complete. Lots of learning and frustration but also encouragement for what's to come. That being said I'm looking forward to starting on the vertical stabilzer soon just for the change of scenery so to speak!

Final task for the H stab is to remove the rest of the vinyl covering and come up with a place to store it in the garage.

Back to work!


 
Jan 16, 2022     Horizontal Stab final riveting - (4.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Couple nights worth of work to log. After getting a good review of my work from the tech counselor, it was time to start the final riveting of the skin to the frame to include all sections.

Spent a few hours the first night completing the rest of the interior rivets with the rivet gun and bucking bar. I experimented with a couple different ways to protect the internal structure from the bucking bar. Tape only was not enough to keep the bar from marring the surface. Eventually I settled on a small piece of scrap about 3"x2" to use as a shield on top of the tape. This ultimately did the trick and once I started using that along with the masking tape, I was no longer scuffing up the ribs and spars, all of that damage was occurring to the small piece of scrap. So good lesson there on how to deal with that. I did finally manage to mangle one rivet which considering how many I'd set over the past few sessions, I was almost relieved to know that it's still possible to screw up the -3 rivets.

Fortunately one of the points of discussion with Gary from the tech inspection was how I was going about removing rivets. In talking with him I realized I was making my life a lot harder doing it the way I was doing it. For a while now I have been drilling all the way through the rivet and then trying to work the heads off before popping the rivet out or drilling the rest of the rivet out. With Gary's advice this time I only drilled down to depth just slightly below the head of the rivet, in this case a flush (426) rivet. With that done I was able to pop the head off fairly cleanly revealing the shank of the rivet but more importantly preserving the original hole size. I simply used the #40 bit to drill out the rest of the rivet and I was able to use another -3 rivet and finish it off no worse for ware. So thanks Gary for the suggestion, it worked a lot better this way. Always learning!

Anyways finished this night with all of the interior rivets set and by test fitting the rear spar to the rear of the stab. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!! It didn't fit!!!!! What the @#$$ ???? Much to my chagrin, the rear spar was about a 1/4" short of fitting properly from one side to the other. I started to get that sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach that somehow, someway, after all this time and effort, after being so careful that somehow I had managed to dork this up. I tried multiple times to cleco the rear spar in only to see that it just wasn't fitting like it should on one half. I could see that the middle of the rear spar was not aligned on the centerline of the piece. Kinda started to panic here a bit until I slowly nudged the short side of the spar into place.

All in all it wasn't screwed up after all. Like a lot of the pieces, it just needed a bit of encouragement to fit into place. The aluminum is forgiving in places and this was a case of just tightening up the skin to match the structure. So crisis adverted! Whew! It finally fit and all that worrying was for nothing. Again lesson learned. So the night ended with the rear spar cleco'd into place and ready to be riveted.

The following evening gave me a chance to relax a little from the violence that is riveting with a bucking bar and gun. All of these outside rivets can be done with a squeezer. I started out with the intention of using the pneumatic squeezer but quickly realized that due to its weight and shape, it was going to be more trouble than it was worth to use. The small -3 rivets are fairly easy to squeeze with a hand squeezer so once I got the depth dialed in, it was off to the races and I set all of the top side rear skin rivets without issue. I ended by riveting the majority of the tip rib top side rivets as well. I went as far as I could with the yoke I was using on the hand squeezer. Gary mentioned during the inspection that I may have to use a pair of vice grips for the last few rivets as there isn't enough room to get a bucking bar or squeezer yoke in there. We'll see what I end up doing, done slowly and cautiously, I can probably set those few with a small bucking bar.

By the end of the night it's starting to look like a completed part!

One final bit I wanted to mention is that at the end of the previous night I stopped and looked over the assembly drawing to make sure I had completed all of the tasks that are called for on the drawing (most are not mentioned in the plans). I came across one task that I had neglected to get to yet. This task has you leave 10 of the top side interior rivets empty and unfilled to make room for (eventually) nutplates to hold the empennage fairing in place. It's a good thing I caught this because I was all set to rivet these holes in the coming days. However the instruction left me a bit confused so I asked the question on the Facebook Vans builder group as to whether these holes were really supposed to be left without being riveted. As always you get about 5 or 6 different answers and you have to sort out who is most likely correct or who has the best advice. The answer is that "yes" these 10 holes are supposed to be left blank and eventually nut plates will use these holes to make room for the empennage fairing waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the road when you get to that point. However I have seen and several people on that post mentioned that this is not a very good way to secure that fairing, that there was a better way. The 'better' way is to go ahead and rivet these 10 holes like the rest of the skin and instead, form the empennage fairing in a different way and thereby secure it in a different way that avoids using nutplates at all. I have seen that on other builds and that's what I intend to do so asking the question definitely paid off. I will go ahead and rivet those holes and attach the fairing differently than what the plans call for.

This is a great example of tying to think ahead, far ahead in this case, about how you will ultimately complete the airplane way down the road and how some things that you are doing here at the very beginning can affect that outcome years from now. Gotta be careful about how you do some of these things so that you don't paint yourself into a corner a few years from now.


 
Jan 13, 2022     Horizontal Stab tech inspeciton - (1.0 hour)       Category: Inspection
Gary was kind enough to pay me a visit today to check up on my work on the HS. No show stoppers, we did find 4 rivets in the aft spar that I forgot to put in, whoops! I would have noticed them eventually, my dumb luck I would have not noticed them until the rear spar was riveted in place. Thankful to find them now.

Always helps to have a second set of eyes on a project and his input is greatly appreciated and valued. Overall everything looks good and as Mike Patey likes to say "back to work!". Time to finish riveting the skin to the rest of the structure. After that the rear spar gets riveted in place and that's it for the horizontal stab.


 
Jan 10, 2022     Finishing up before tech inspection - (2.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
My EAA tech inspector will be here in the morning to look over my work so I wanted to get the top side skin rivets in place before he gets here.

Finished up riveting the top side skin on the right hand upper HS. Getting a lot more comfortable with the riveting, I'm able to rivet with either hand and almost prefer to rivet left handed (holding the gun) to allow my right hand to control the bucking bar. It really is a feel thing and making sure the gun is set up correctly. I didn't mess up any rivets this evening so that's encouraging. The learning curve as of late has been steep and rewarding.

For example when riveting the skin on tonight, I left the opposite side skin un-attached to give my hand more room inside the structure to hold the bucking bar. I don't know why I didn't think of that before. Just one of those things you start figuring out as you go! That won't be possible when I close up the opposite side but I've already riveted one half with it closed up so I know what I'm in for.

Also used less masking tape this evening, just covered the area below the rivet line on the shop head side. I also experimented with not covering the mushroom set head with any tape. One rivet was all it took to convince me that this wasn't a good idea after all. The one image shows a nice vertical row of flush rivets with the very top rivet showing where the mushroom set head marred the surface. The painter will ultimately scuff the surface up to prep for paint and this will all get covered up eventually. However I plan to fly the first year or so unpainted while I finish the Phase I test flights and save enough $$$ to pay for the paint job lol!


 
Jan 09, 2022     Riveting a few smaller parts - (2.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Just a couple hours today to finish a few small tasks before tackling the top side skin on the right side in the next day or two.

Learning from the first go around a few days ago, everything (well almost) everything went a lot smoother and quicker today. First task was to finish riveting the HS-707 nose rib on the opposite side. Next was to blind rivet the HS-707, HS-702 (spar) and HS-708 rib together. Again this time went much quicker and smoother as I had learned what not to do from the other day. All three blind rivets set this time with no issues.

Final bit today was to cleco the skin to the right side of the frame and finally rivet the two rivets of HS-706 to the spar. I was cruising along and driving this first 470 4-4 rivet just fine when the damn rivet gun slipped out of my grip and bounced off the outside of the rib. Dammit!!!! This creased the rivet head and even dented the rib very slightly. I finished the other rivet and grabbed the rivet removal kit. So I spent about 30 minutes taking out this -4 rivet and it put up a good fight. Once it was out the hole was ever so slightly enlarged so I just opened it to a #21 sized hole and set a 470 5-4 sized rivet in it's place.

The right side top skin is ready to be riveted on. This will be the last task before the tech inspection hopefully this week.


 
Jan 07, 2022     Time to rivet some skins! - (4.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
It never got above 20*F outside today brrrrrr, after heating the space with my two electric space heaters I managed to get it up to 54*F according to thermometer on the wall, so very doable.

With the new cradle made it was time to put it to good use and get the top half of the left HS skin riveted in place. In total about 45 small -3 rivets to set so a good amount of riveting to be done. To my surprise, I managed to set all of them without messing any up. I used several different bucking bars and even switched hands and riveted left handed to give my right hand a break. Seems to take a good bit of strength to set these small rivets in tight quarters like this. I used a lot of masking tape to make sure I didn't ding my parts any more than necessary and I even managed not to drop any bucking bars the entire time!

Of all the bars I used, I kept coming back to the small tungsten bar that I have. Its mass and density just make it more effective when it comes to squishing these small rivets, its smaller size is also advantageous for this part. After all the rivets were set I removed all the tape (easier said than done) and I'm glad I did use the tape on the inside areas as even with it, I managed a few good scratches to the parts from the bucking bars.

With the top rivets set, the plans have you go back and repeat about the last previous ten steps for the right side which again starts with riveting the nose rib in place which is how I finished off my day, a productive day for sure and a confidence building day as well.

The plan is to finish riveting up the right side until I'm at the point where you insert the rear spar and rivet the final parts of the skin. I will pause there and have my EAA tech counselor inspect the work before I finish. Once it's closed up there really isn't any access to the interior parts of the structure.


 
Jan 05, 2022     A few small tasks and a new stabilizer cradle - (4.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
After setting the rivets associated with the nose rib, the next steps are to rivet the rear middle rib to the spar and nose rib and rivet the tip rib to the spar as well. Only five rivets in total but a lot of time in setup, thought and figuring out if everything was alligned. Since there are three parts that have to have all their holes aligned, I took my time (and took it apart several times) to make sure everything was lined up. Undoing a mistake here would be very time consuming so better to get it right the first time.

First task was to attach HS-708 to HS-702 and 707. Due to the positioning of this intersection of parts, the only option is to use blind rivets instead, in this case LP-4's to secure the parts to one another. Blind rivets (up until this point) have been easy to use, just grab the stem with the rivet puller, give it a couple squeezes, and the rivet sets with the stem being sheered off at the head of the rivet. So even though the space was tight, the first one set normally. However the next two (the outside ones) both snapped the stems off about mid way instead of at the head of the rivet like they're supposed to do. Dammit!!!! This hasn't happened to me before so I wasn't completely sure what to do. I consulted section 5 in the plans, nothing in there, consulted my aircraft maintenance handbook, still nothing in there. So finally ended up searching on VAF and found the answer. Apparently this is not uncommon and can be anything from defective blind rivets to a bad or old puller or even just the angle at which the puller is held. There was even one poor fella that tried four different hand pullers and was still breaking the stems off. So a slight sigh of relief and I got up this morning and just cut them off and grinded them down using a Dremel tool. I'm confident they are set properly as the stem broke off at exactly the right amount of tension and right amount of squeezes, they just didn't break off where they were supposed to and I'm fairly certain the tight confines of this area and a slightly off angle pull is what caused this since the first one (the middle one) set like it should. I did manage to scratch up my parts a bit so I used a quick shot of primer in a cup and a Q-tip to clean up the scratches.

With that done I just needed to set two solid rivets to join the tip rib to the front spar. I looked at it and figured out a way to get my hand squeezer in there since that's the method I prefer. However after squeezing the first one slightly I realized the contortion that was required to squeeze the rivet was most likely going to result in a bad rivet. So I switched mid stream to the rivet gun and set both rivets that way. I should have just done this to begin with. Still a bit gun shy with the rivet gun but I'm getting better.

With those tasks completed it was time to construct a new cradle to hold the full horizontal stabilizer as it won't be too much longer until both skins are on the structure and I need a full cradle to hold the entire structure. I've made a few of these previously, one to hold the rudder and another to hold each half of the HS so this one went together pretty quickly and is the best one I'm made yet! Test fit and placed into action!

Next steps are to start riveting the skin to the forward spar and HS-708. That's going to be quite a bit of riveting and I want to do some research as to the best order to attack this section. I'm also close to having it ready for another visit from a tech counselor so I'm planning ahead a little to see how much I should complete so that there is enough access to give it a good look over.


 
Jan 03, 2022     3.5 hours to set 12 rivets!!!!! - (3.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
I'm now officially in my third year of the build having acquired the empennage kit in January of 2019. So three years down who knows how many more to go. It's done when it's done at this point and the crazy long lead times for kits these days will not help. Wing kit is scheduled to arrive by late summer this year so we'll see where things go this year. I am finally making more steady progress thanks to more time at home.

To start back at it, it was time to rivet the left side nose rib into place. HS-707 is small enough and you would think would be fairly straight forward to rivet in place. Yes and no. Due to its position inside the stab, it's a bit tricky to get to to set these small -3 size rivets. So a bit of prep and planning had to go into this task which is why it ended up taking over 3 hours to get all of these set. The drawings indicate you can use blind rivets on the bottom if you wish due to the difficulty in reaching it but I at least wanted to try setting these rivets first before I went that route. The plans have you rivet the HS-707 to the top side of the skin first, then use the ribs 706 and 708 cleco'd in place to help rivet the bottom side of 707 in place.

I used one of my stands that I built to hold the rudder to hold the left hand side of the HS in place and help 'shape' the skin around the HS-707 rib. I remember from the mock up of this section that the skin is very resistant to forming around it so pre-shaping the skin was a must. I ended up using some paracord I had laying around to help close the skin around the rib and that worked well. I also used a stand to get some height above the piece which gave me better access and leverage. So the top side rivets went in ok and I managed not to mangle any of them.

The bottom side is a bit more challenging. Once you cleco in the supporting ribs, there is minimal room to get a hand and arm in that space to hold a bucking bar. This would have been a great place to have another set of hands to help me rivet but I made it work. I ended up flipping the piece over which gave me much better access to the bottom side rivets. I managed to set the first couple ok, then mangled the third. Take a deep breath, relax and think! The other rivets went in ok but it was pretty hard to get the rivet gauge in there to check them. The -3 rivets are so tiny that it's easy to mess them up and it's a bit hard to tell if they're set fully since the the shop head protrudes from the bottom of the dimple.

So 11 out of 12 set, not too bad. I spent about 15 minutes drilling out the one bad one, it was not cooperating. Again the -3's are a pain because they are so small to begin with. Fortunately in my rivet removal kit I have a #50 drill bit to use on these -3 screw ups. So with enough 'encouragement' it finally came loose although I ended up having to drill out the body of the rivet as the head didn't want to come off.

With that sorted, I simply held the whole piece and proceeded to set a new -3 rivet. It immediately bent over......! WHAT!!!!! When I went to see how bad it was, the whole rivet fell out. Hmmmm..... weird. So I tried again with a new rivet. This one didn't tip, it just fell out like the first do-over. Turns out there was still a small piece of the original rivet stuck in the whole which was preventing the rivets from setting properly. I tried to clear it out, nothing worked. So I upside the whole to a #30 and used an 'oops' rivet from that kit and set the rivet normally.

So all in all, 3.5 hours of time to get these 12 little rivets set. It's progress!


 
Dec 21, 2021     Getting Better at Riveting! - (0.5 hour)       Category: Empennage
Just a quick bit of work tonight to attach the two inboard nose ribs to the front spar as well as the inboard main ribs. This entails riveting the left and right HS-00005 and HS-00006 pieces to the front spar assembly. This requires fairly long -4 rivets to accomplish this as there are several parts stacked on top of one another so the length is required to get through all those parts. So 8 rivets in total in a very tight spot.

A month ago I would have probably messed this up trying to get in this tight space and set really bad rivets. Patience and a little planning and it actually was fairly easy to do. The instructions tell you to gently bend the nose ribs to allow access to these rivets which is exactly what I did. I also set the rivets from front to back which was the logical way to accomplish this step. If 'learning' is defined as modification of a behavioral tendency by experience, then I am getting more savvy with each step of the build.

A little piece of wire (from those little marker flags they stick in your yard to mark utilities) to hold the rib off to the side and these 8 rivets were fairly easy to set. I managed to set all of them without screwing any up, a first for me. Getting better every time!

Inboard ribs attached and ready for the next step.


 
Dec 16, 2021     Finishing the front HS spar - (1 hour)       Category: Empennage
With yesterday's frustrations still looming in my mind, I needed to finish riveting the HS front spar together. I had about 20 rivets left to go and all needed to be driven. After not having much luck driving rivets yesterday I was a little timid about trying to finish this section. One thing I had going for me was that these rivets for the most part were very easy to get to making the actual process of setting them a bit easier.

So with that I set out to finish off this last bit of riveting. I started with the 4-5 rivets because of their slightly smaller length and ease of access. To my surprise these actually went very well and out of the 12 that needed to be set, I only messed one up and that's because I overdrove it as I got a little too enthusiastic. Ironically it was the first one I tried setting, it went in so easily that I got a little cocky and tried to finish it off just perfectly. With 11 of 12 rivets set fairly easily I turned my attention to the remaining rivets which were through the stiffener and doubler onto the spar itself. After the debacle the day before I was determined not to go that route again. Fortunately there was enough room to use the rivet gun and I managed to get most of these set without any issues. My issue of creasing the rivets that I experienced from yesterday wasn't a factor today as I had learned a better technique for holding the rivet gun and applying pressure to the factory head of the rivet. In fact I set all but one rivet correctly, the one I did mess up, I creased it again but it happened to be the one that was just slightly offset towards the edge of the stiffener and I could tell the rivet set was interfering with the edge. So I smiled one rivet out of the bunch.

This time I got smart and decided that I wouldn't try to set the other rivet that had this same spacing issue, INSTEAD I elected to set this one and it's twin opposite of all the others. After all, access to the rivet sometimes determines the direction the rivet gets set and it finally dawned on me that instead of trying to fight this rivet to drive it in the same direction as all the others, why not just set it the opposite way and be done with it. So that's exactly what I did after drilling my two ooops rivets out and resetting them. This time the rivets came out a little easier and I was able to use the same size rivets again instead of going up a size.

So all in all, a short night but a good night of work as I finally finished off this critical piece of structure and it feels great getting through this little learning experience. I will touch up the primer in a few areas later on before attaching the skins.


 
Dec 15, 2021     My enemy, the driven rivet! - (4 hours)       Category: Empennage
Having used the squeezer to set as many of the rivets as I could, I had reached the point of having to get out the rivet gun and whack some rivets for the first time in over a year. Since it's been a while I knew I needed some practice first before I jumped into this section. So I spent a little bit of time yesterday and more today practicing with the rivet gun (3X in my case) and trying different air pressure settings and regulator settings. I also talked with my tech counselor to get his input on what I may be doing wrong as I just cannot get consistently acceptable results. To me, driving rivets with the rivet gun in is the most challenging part of the build so far. Hopefully a year or two from now I will read this and laugh. But for now it's a real pain as each rivet that gets messed up requires 15 or more minutes to drill out and fix.

So after trying a few different things, different bucking bars, different pressures out of the compressor, I decided to change out the pressure regulator on the gun so a quick trip to a local tool store and I was ready to go. A few more practice rivets after I got home with the new regulator installed and I was feeling pretty confident.

I moved my bench vice onto my main work table which allowed me to secure the work and have a lot better access to it. It was time to buck some rivets. First rivet set was perfect, whew! So with my confidence bolstered, I proceeded to mangle and 'smiley' the next four rivets in a row....... Son of a......

So after spending all that time practicing here I was staring at 4 AN470 4-7 rivets in a row that had smiley's on them. They talk about how frustrating it will be to build an airplane, today was one of those days for sure. To make matters worse, only after screwing up these four did I realize that I actually could get the squeezer in there and just squeeze the rivets. Lesson learned. Turns out the lip of the spar stiffener was too close to the rivet set causing it to interfere with the action of the rivet gun. Again lesson learned, after the third one I realized this and changed the rivet set to an offset one, that didn't help either and having screwed up four in a row, I called a time out and got out the rivet removal tools.

Usually I can get the -3 rivets out pretty easily due to their small size. The -4 or -5 rivets are a bit harder to get out cleanly. These were no exception, 3 of the 4 stretched the original hole. I ended up enlarging them to a #21 size hole which corresponds to a -5 rivet. Knowing I could just squeeze these instead of trying to drive them again, I elected to just use a -5 rivet of the same length and squeeze them instead. The result was three 'ooops' rivets to show for my work. You can always go up a size in rivets as long as the hole doesn't get too distorted. Fortunately there was no issue with edge distance.

So this was a good place to end for the night, lots of frustration, lots of lessons learned, lots of curse words.... The remaining rivets all have to be driven, the squeezer can't access them, they should go better as they are not as hard to get to.


 
Dec 14, 2021     Front HS Spar Continued - (2.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
With the rear spar finished, time to start on the front spar. This requires riveting the two spar stiffeners as well as the spar doublers to the left and right halves of the front spar. This is a critical area and is heavily fortified with a lot of rivets and structure which is further enhanced with the application of the spar doublers which come from compliance with a service bulletin for this area. As always I'm more comfortable setting rivets by squeezing them as opposed to driving them. All of the rivets on the top spart stiffener are able to be squeezed, I just used my hand squeezer although I managed to tip the very first one I tried to set, a bit rusty obviously. That's one to drill out. I squeezed as many of the other top set that I could and stopped when I got to the lip of the stiffener as it appeared that I would have to drive these rivets with the gun. I haven't done that in over a year so off to get in some much needed practice with the rivet gun first before I completely dork up this section.

The third picture in this set shows my system for highlighting the drawings and plans to (hopefully) make sure I don't miss anything. Orange for parts callouts, pink for rivet callouts and green for tasks to be completed. This seems to really help when you're looking at one of the drawings and just need to find a part number or rivet callout.


 
Dec 11, 2021     Rear Spar finished, front spar begins - (3.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
The last bit to accomplish on the rear HS spar was to attach the elevator hinge bracket with the four provided bolts, nuts and washers. I had to wait about a week to get the proper torque wrenches to finish the installation of the 4 bolts and torque them to the correct setting. With those in hand it was a simple matter of determining the 'torque drag' of the AN-365 nuts first and then adding that value to the called for torque value of this bolt/nut combo. To do that, I needed a needle style torque wrench to show the amount of force, ie torque, that it takes just to thread the nut onto the bolt. That was around 8 inch pounds, combine that with the called for torque value of 20-25 inch pounds for this bolt/nut combo, gives an overall torque setting of 28-33 inch pounds for the actual torque wrench. I set a value of 30 inch pounds on the wrench and with the characteristic 'click' set each nut/bolt to the appropriate torque setting. BTW, torque settings for the hardware are located in a table in Section 5 of the plans, page 5-20. A little torque seal, or witness mark to finish each one off and that section is finished. The torque seal will break if the nuts ever come loose and begin to back off and you will be able to see this on an inspection.

Next up is the front spar, I gathered all the initial parts and began to mock them up only to realize that I had forgotten to finish drilling the holes for the left side of the spar and doublers that are part of the service bulletin. Whoops! Fortunately this wasn't a big deal and I just finished match drilling the remaining 14 holes that I had failed to finish in a previous step of the build. I also realized I had failed to final size drill a few holes on a couple of the ribs. The nice thing is that at this point in the build, I'm actually able to see a #40 hole and realize that these are normally used only for attaching the skin to the structure due to their small size. So a little bit of work with the drill and a quick once over with a deburring tool and the left side was finally ready to go.

This was a good stopping point for the evening as I need to plan out the riveting of this part of the structure. I should be able to squeeze most of these rivets and I need to be careful as there is a set of four holes on each half that don't get riveted at this step because they need to have ribs attached to them. Additionally I'm starting to think about some type of jig to build to support the structure of the horizontal stab as it's a fairly large part when it's all put together.



 
Nov 28, 2021     Two months of inactivity...... - (2.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Well life and work got in the way again and here we are two months later having made zero progress. It's frustrating for sure. I have a dry erase board on my garage wall that I always record my last day of progress. Some times those numbers discourage me but I realize it's all part of the process. It's now after Thanksgiving and it's snowing outside. The warm days are behind us for now and maybe that's not a bad thing as the dark and cold tends to drive us all inside anyhow. With a couple of space heaters I can get the garage up to about 20 degrees warmer than ambient outside within a reasonable amount of time. So for now with temps in the lower 30's it's quite comfortable after about 20 minutes of letting the heat run. Come January, there are stretches that it is not practical to work out there.

There is some good news, I did manage during this break to complete my tailwheel endorsement in the Citabria pictured below. I had a lot of fun doing that after I got used to the airplane and learned a ton in the process even after nearly 30 years and 11,000 hours of flying. We are so spoiled flying modern tricycle gear airplanes that pretty much go where we tell them to go. About an 80 minute drive from my house is a small operation that does tailwheel training, spin training, upset recovery training and aerobatics training using either this Citabria or a Super Decathalon. I wish it was closer but it's the best training around for tailwheel aircraft so I'm happy to have them somewhat close by. BTW I tried to buy this Citabria in 2019 for our flying club and this operation bought it out from under us. I'm glad it went to a good home that has used it well and it's sorta ironic to get my endorsement in this exact airplane!

Sometimes after a lengthy break such as this it can be difficult getting going again. No matter where you left off or how many notes you write it just doesn't feel comfortable jumping right back into it without having to relearn where you were at, what you were thinking at the time and what you needed to do. So despite having nearly three weeks off of work it took me until that third week to get back to it. Just one excuse after another but at least I made a little progress on this night.

I mentioned in my last post about forgetting a step in the assembly that I should have done BEFORE riveting the spar halves together, it was now time to get that done with some delicate surgery. Knowing from previous experience how easy this is to dork up, I took my time, taped everything off that I could and very delicately and slowly trimmed off the notches in the lower portion of the rear spar being careful not to make contact with the doubler.

After drawing some reference lines which I based on the construction drawings, I used a pair of snips to make initial cuts. From there I used a Dremel with a cutting head on a low speed to slowly start taking material away. For the lateral cut, the one that would be closest to contacting the spar doubler, I didn't cut through the aluminum all at once instead just sort of chipping away at it a little bit at a time again being careful not to touch any other parts of the spar or doublers. This paid off and eventually with a lot of patience I had removed what I needed to and cleaned the rest up with my small deburring head attached to the Dremel. Again having the little diamond shaped deburring head to be able to attach to the Dremel made this fairly easy work to clean up all of the rough edges. I also used a scrap piece of aluminum to protect the other parts of the spar and doublers and this also was a huge help. After some careful cleanup and rounding of the corners, I'm happy with the results and finished by touching up the edges with some primer sprayed into an empty plastic yogurt cup using a q-tip a brush. Works great.

After allowing that to dry I test fit the bolts that hold the 411PP bracket in place only to discover that they only would insert up to the threads and then they were too big for the #12 drilled holes. Hmmm.... Off to the internet to get some advice. Didn't take long in perusing the VAF site to realize that drilled holes are (on a microscopic level) very rough and not even round. The answer lies with using a proper reamer bit to make the final hole size to fit the bolts for a nice tight tolerance. Fortunately I happen to have a #12 reamer and just a few quick passes with that in each hole smoothed them out enough to allow the bolts to fit nicely in place. Lesson learned, drill and then ream if the hole size tolerance is minimal as it should be for a bolt. Not as critical with rivets as the rivets fill the void inside the hole.


 
Sep 29, 2021     Final assembly of the horizontal stab begins - (6.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
With everything primed and ready to go it was time to start the final assembly for the HS. The plans have you start with the rear spar as it's probably the easiest part of this assembly stage. You use the spar doublers to join the two rear spar halves and rivet them together using AN470 rivets. These were the largest rivets I've used yet in terms of length. The plans call for AN470 4-6 rivets which are fairly long but once they are set through the doubler and the spar itself, the majority of that length is inside the structure so they are just the right length for this part of the build. I went round and round about which direction to place these rivets, then went round and round some more. I checked other build logs, surfed VAF, etc. Long story short, it doesn't really matter, sort of.... The general consensus is to place the factory/manufactured head against the thinner of two pieces of aluminum. In this case that would place the round head of the AN470 rivets on the front side of the spar (as installed on the airplane). To me that didn't make any sense since the round head has the umbrella shape to it and it would seem that it would tend to hold onto the doubler better than if I created a shop head on the doubler side. Squishing the opposite end of the rivet effectively fills in the empty space of the hole and the holding force is essentially equivalent to that of the factory head. In the end, even the Van's engineers will tell you that it doesn't matter which way you place them. It seems most builders eventually learn to place them in the orientation that make the most sense based on ease of access, riveting access, looks or even what will be easiest to drill out should that occur on the airplane some day down the road. Think about it, would you rather try to drill out the factory head side of a rivet or the side you squished (the shop head)? So with that in mind, I placed my rivets with the shop heads on the front side of the spar. In the end, it was a lot to do about nothing. There's as many ways to put these parts together as there are opinions on how to do it. Perfection is the enemy of progress and in this case I wasted a lot of time researching something that I really didn't need to. One last bit on rivet direction/orientation, there is some thought out there that the actual plans themselves (the drawings) indicate which way to place the rivet. Look at the pics below for a description on this theory.

So once the direction was decided it was a simple matter of setting all of these rivets thereby joining the two halves of the rear HS spar together. No going back now. And then it hit me...... WHOOPS! Forgot a step that I should have done BEFORE I started riveting the two halves together. The plans DO NOT mention this step at all, again a case of having to reference both the drawings AND the plans for things that must be accomplished. The DRAWINGS have you notch out the lower portion of the rear HS spar so that the elevator horns (later in the build) can make contact with their physical stop block. If you don't notch the spar out, the horns will hit the spar itself and not the designated stop block. You would limit your elevator travel doing this as well as damage the spar from repeated contact. So cuss word, I realized it almost right away. Goes back to the idea a planning out how you will tackle a certain part of an assembly so as not to miss crucial steps in the process. Again here's an example of where the plans leave you hanging so be careful. I decided to notch the piece out after I finished joining it together at a later stage.

I set all of the rivets with my hand squeezer ('Main Squeeze' from Cleveland Tool) as shown in the photo. Again these were the largest rivets I've tried to set with the hand squeezer to date and although it took a good amount of squeeze force to do it, it managed the task fairly easily. I tried the pneumatic squeezer on a few but I just prefer the control I get with the hand squeezer. I've learned to hand squeeze, then pneumatically squeeze and finally buck with a rivet gun, in that order of preference, for setting rivets. It's so easy to tip over a small rivet with a rivet gun, the hand squeezer by far produces the most reliable and repeatable results. With all of the rivets set joining the two doublers to the two halves of the rear HS spar, it was time to move on to the elevator hinge brackets.

BTW like everything we do, setting up the parts for ease of access is key, you see in the images how I have the spar clamped to the long board that supports it off each end of my work bench. Can't have enough clamps IMO. A big thing to watch for is to make sure you don't rivet certain holes as they get riveted later on in the sequence, again masking tape is your friend here and you see one of the images where I used small strips of painter's tape to cover the holes that were not to be riveted just yet, namely the holes for the elevator hinge brackets.

The brackets themselves were pretty straight forward with one exception. The rivet call out in the plans didn't seem correct on a few of them. The rivet was either too long or too short for the set. You can see when you place the rivet in the hole if it looks about the right length. On some it was clearly not the correct length (at least to my untrained eyes). So I got to experiment with my rivet cutter at this point. I cut a few off to a perfect length and a few I used the next longer sized rivet. So some of my hinges have different length rivets on the same hinge. I ended up getting the calipers out to measure the shop head after they had been squeezed. I wanted to know for sure if they were within tolerances for a driven rivet. Again here is an area of some debate. The rivet gauges I have are not always useful as they only show you if the rivet meets/does not meet a certain diameter once it's been set or a certain height once it's been set. There is actually a range of size for the shank once it's been set and the rivet gauges are right in the middle of that range (as they should be). So the set head may be slightly larger than the rivet gauge or slightly smaller than the rivet gauge and by the mil specs, it's still a properly set rivet diameter wise as well as height wise. Again a lot of consternation about a minor thing. Still learning as I go but I feel better knowing there is wiggle room on the size of the shop heads. As someone told me once, if you stress out over every single rivet on this project, you will never finish.

With all of the outboard brackets riveted in place, that just left the center hinge bracket, the HS-411, and as it's the big one, it gets bolted in place and the nuts torqued on so without a proper torque wrench to finish this step this was a good stopping point before I had to head back to work and off to Europe on a trip that would take a week.

Regarding the drawings and rivet directions. There are a few builders who say to look at the drawings and they tell or maybe recommend to you the order of the parts to be riveted together. In this last image look at the callout for the 609PP to the 603PP parts. The 603PP is the spar half and the 609PP is the doubler. Notice how the drawing says "AN470AD4-5 ALL HS-609PP TO HS-603PP RIVETS". What they're saying is that the plans tell you to rivet the 609PP part to the 603PP part thereby telling you to drive the rivet from the 609PP into the 603PP which is how I did it BTW. So round factory head on the 609PP doubler driven into the 603PP spar half. Whether that's a thing or not I don't know. Someone else said that's Van's giving you a recommendation on which way to place the rivet. Again open for debate but for the most part, this seems to make sense.


 
Sep 25, 2021     Parts Primed - (3.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
With all the parts scuffed, cleaned and prepped, it was time to apply some primer. I use the SEM brand self-etching primer and I think I've got my system down pretty good now and I'm happy with the results. To me it seems the key is to not get crazy on the first spray, just do steady passes and try not to repeat any areas unless you really have to. Let that dry for about 30 minutes and then repeat another steady but slightly quicker passes. Again using only rattle cans and a spray paint 'gun' and it seems to be adequate for what I need to do the empennage parts. Not sure if this will suffice for the bigger parts of the build.

With all the parts primed and dry, added labels since many of them are mirror image parts and it would be easy to confuse them or use the wrong one.

I haven't shown my paint booth too much, not sure what the neighbors think but it's already getting pretty dusty on the inside. Might be time soon for some new plastic sides and filters. So far so good and it's been adequate for what I'm doing. The SEM primer is nasty stuff for sure.


 
Sep 21, 2021     Lots of scrubbing and scuffing - (3.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
Again, have I mentioned how much I despise scuffing parts?? I'm pretty sure I've made that abundantly clear in this builder log. Alas waiting for me were all of the internal right side parts, some big, some little but all needing to be prepped for paint. So 3 straight hours of scuffing, cleaning, scuffing some more, cleaning a little more and then finally dimpling the holes that needed to be dimpled prior to paint. The dimpling only took about 30 minutes, the DRDT2 makes quick work of dimpling, there were a few spots that needed a hand squeezer to finish off the part but the work, although tedious at times, is done and now the parts are ready for final cleaning and priming.

One painted, they will be mocked back up again with clecos and the final riveting will begin. The whole horizontal stab skeleton is a bit intimidating from a riveting point of view as I've done very little 'real' riveting up until this point having used a squeezer as much as possible. That will also be the case here but I need to really practice setting rivets with the gun and bucking bar before tackling this part.

So after paint, I will be spending a while just practicing with the rivet gun and getting comfortable again.


 
Sep 03, 2021     Back after a long break - (10 hours)       Category: Empennage
After a long break to transition to a new job and a new schedule, I am finally finding some regular time to work on the build. I left the project off by disassembling the entire right side HS and storing the parts in the basement. As much as I would have liked to get right back to it after starting the new job, there was just no time. Now the heat of the summer has faded, our son is back in school and my time has freed up which means I can start to make steady progress once again.

The project was left literally in pieces, specifically the right sides HS parts all disassembled and stored. On my build radar for a while now have been the left and right hand side horizontal stab skins. Those needed to be deburred, cleaned, dimpled and prepped for primer. Sounds easy enough but it's a time consuming process. So that seemed a logical place to pick things back up and get going again. I've spent the past week prepping both skins for their interior coat of primer. That involved deburring each hole, inside and out, scuffing the interior, cleaning, dimpling each hole, scuffing and cleaning some more and finally priming the interior of each skin. Nothing too challenging here although I did get to use my pop rivet dimple set for the first time to dimple the front two holes of the middle row of each skin. Again YouTube is invaluable for when you need guidance on how to use a specific tool or how to perform a specific task. Thank you to the folks at Cleveland Aircraft Tool once again for demo'ing their tools on YouTube to help builders.

With all the scuffing done, edge prep done, holes drilled and deburred, last step was to scuff (did I mention how much I hate this part...) then initial cleaning with de-natured alcohol, then dimple, then final clean with acetone. That's my process, match drill, debur, scuff, dimple, paint, final assembly. Seems to work best that way. It can be more challenging to dimple before you scuff. Those little raised ridges will tear the Scotchbrite pads apart.

It was good to get back into the paint booth and get some parts primed.


 
May 23, 2021     Slow progress, big life changes! - (10 hours)       Category: Empennage
I took a new job and things have been a little crazy for the past few months which means the build has been on the back burner. Before that the old job got very busy with a lot of time away from home which left little time to build. I managed to sneak in a few hours to finish up mocking up the right side horizontal stabilizer before shelving the project for a few months to head off to training for the new job.

Pictures show the final drilling and fitting of the interior ribs for the RH HS. This is quite a complicated area with lots of parts, lots of holes and eventually a lot of riveting to be done. I thought it would go as smooth as the left side but it actually didn't fit together as well and took some work to get all the parts an pieces lined up and drilled.

Final few pics show the the entire RH HS drilled, cleco'd and assembled.


 
Mar 06, 2021     On to the right side HS - (3 hours)       Category: Empennage
With the left side parts finally primed, time to start the process over again for the right side components. Parts labeled and edges prepped and deburred. Much to my surprise, I had forgotten that I had already prepped all of the ribs, including the right side ribs last month. So all I needed to do was to clean up the edges of the two spars sections which was done fairly quickly on the Scotch-brite wheel.

With that done, it was time to mock up the right side HS frame and match drill the ribs to the spars. Having done this already on the left side made this go pretty quick. Some of the steps I had already completed which was a nice time saver. With the right side skeleton mocked up it was time to do the first fitting of the right side skin. This one put up more of a fight than the left side and I had some difficulty getting the HS-707 nose rib in place and cleco'd in place. It put up a good fight and I bent the nose of that rib pretty good. I'll take a closer look at it when I pull it back apart. I think it's fine but if not it's easy enough to get a new one.

With the main skeleton covered with the skin, I left my OCD on the sideline this time and only cleco'd every other hole for the most part except in the middle rib section where it needed to be in each hole.

Last thing for the night was to add the two front spar stiffeners, HS-810 and 814 as well as the HS-00003 spar doubler. With those added in place it was time to test fit the two most inboard ribs, HS-00005 and HS-00006. My initial thoughts are that these might be a bit tougher to place and drill than the left side. I'm getting the impression that the right side may not come together as easily as the left. We'll see in the coming days and weeks.

Next steps are to match drill all the skin to skeleton holes and to place and drill all the holes in the inboard ribs using the skin holes as a guide. Winter has finally broke in these parts so I'm looking forward to working with the garage door open once again in the coming weeks.


 
Mar 05, 2021     Prep and paint Left HS frame parts - (8 hours)       Category: Empennage
Nothing too exciting to share here, literally my least favorite part of the whole process, scuffing parts for paint. Several nights spent scuffing all of the left side skeleton pieces. It's been very cold over the last few weeks so not ideal to paint in a small garage that is not heated. Fortunately the weather has warmed the past week and I was able to finally get all of the left side parts primed. Process went much better this time after my initial experience with the rudder.

I will say this, I chose a gray colored SEM primer because I didn't like the dark green or neon green that is more common but looking back, CHOSING GRAY PRIMER as a color was stupid. It makes it very hard to see where the thin parts of the paint are. I really have to look closely at what I'm painting to see if it needs another pass with the rattle can. Overall though I'm happy with my paint setup in the garage. If I can paint with the garage door partially open it is manageable.

My order of battle for paint is to prep the parts by deburring and edge prep first which is usually done during the mockup process. Then once the parts are separated after mockup, scuff with maroon Scotchbrite pads using a little bit of distilled water to remove the alcad layer. The water keeps the AL dust down and seems to help with the scuffing process. Then clean with denatured alcohol until the rag is not showing any more signs of aluminum residue. Then dimple any parts that need to be dimpled. Finally a quick cleaning with acetone and immediately into the paint booth to await spraying. Trial and error has taught me that it's a lot easier to scuff and initially clean parts if they are not dimpled yet. Seems to make the process go a little easier that way.

Also in this round of work was the need to drill a hole through the left side front spar and spar doubler to accommodate a pass through for a trim cable. So that was done prior to scuff and paint with a unibit stepping the hole up one diameter at a time.


 
Feb 13, 2021     Finishing the left HS skeleton - (8 hours)       Category: Empennage
This work was completed over several days and nights, just going to do one big update as opposed to breaking it down into the small chunks. The initial mock up and build up of the frame is pretty straight forward until you get to the last few parts with all the match drilling and set up required to get everything aligned and in the correct place at the forward spar junction. I cannot emphasize this enough so I will put it as its own sentence:

DRAW A CENTERLINE ON ALL OF THE RIBS, ALONG THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF EACH RIB'S UPPER AND LOWER FLANGE!

Thankfully I had read that tip before I started on the horizontal stabilizer and I'm glad I did as it made things much easier than it would have been otherwise. The instructions have you do this on a few pieces but don't mention doing this on all of the flanges. Since the holes that get drilled are being drilled on small flanges, edge distance is critical and being off by just 1/8 of an inch could ruin a part to the point where you may have to scrap it.

So this set of days/nights was dealing with getting HS-00005 and HS-00006 in place and get their front and rear flanges match drilled to the rest of the frame. These two rib pieces are different than what was in my original kit as these are the updated parts that are a result of the SB that strengthens this part of the tail. So after a lot of reading of the instructions making sure to get everything right, it was time to start test fitting these two ribs into place on the inboard side of the stabilizer.

These ribs have no pre-drilled holes in them so fitting them into the inner portion of the skin requires the use of a lot of cleco clamps or something similar. Fortunately I had plenty of these and made good use of them. The instructions have you test fit these, check for fit, check for hole alignment, etc. Then remove everything, debur, flute, etc. Long story short, you put the whole thing together and take it back apart about three or four times. Each time you work on a few holes that need to be drilled and the order is important. Follow the directions and things go together fairly easily. There was some hand wringing on a few holes knowing how tight the tolerances are but again having the centerlines drawn on the rib flanges really helped.

The pictures included tell most of the stories. The bulk of the hard work is getting the front flange of HS-00005 and the rear flange of HS-00006 drilled in place with everything fitting properly. With that done, you can drill the holes for the top and bottom flanges of these two ribs using the holes in the skin as a guide which is pretty straight forward.

With those crucial steps complete, you simply matchdrill the remainder of the frame using the skin holes as your guide. Once that was done, there are four holes that still need to be drilled through the two spar doublers and the HS-00003 piece. I used a printout of the plans that show this section as a guide to make sure I had all the holes drilled. The four circled holes in that picture are the ones that you have to drill and fortunately, and I can't even remember where or when, but these four holes are already drilled in the HS-00003 part. I think they are pre-drilled but either way they were already there on the back side of the piece so it was just a simple matter once again of match drilling.

With that all complete, this finishes this section of the horizontal stab as far as the mock-up goes. From here you take everything apart, debur, clean and prep for paint, dimple the skin and then prime if desired. So that's one half of the stab mock-up complete. You simply repeat this process for the other side.

I didn't run into too many issues during this phase, there is a single hole on the top and bottom of the skin that due to the age of my kit (2011) and the incorporation of the SB, this hole will not have a matching hole to rivet it to and therefore can be considered a blank and filled with a rivet. The SB plans direct you to do this.

Next steps will be to prep and prime these parts. I think I will do that as I've yet to prime much of anything since moving the project back into the garage and this will be a nice break from the mock-up process. Although I will freely admit that prepping the parts for paint is a giant pain in the rear and probably my least favorite part of the build, just lots of manual labor that has no real short cuts to it.

Look closely at the two images of the forward rib HS-00006 clamped in place. You can see the centerline that is drawn on the top of that part's flange that allows you to align the rib properly before you drill it. If you didn't have this reference line, it would make lining the rib up properly somewhat difficult. I would also recommend using the thin tip version of the Sharpie as the regular sharpie makes too thick of a line to use reliably. With all the reference lines and everything aligned and clamped in place, you can be pretty confident that when you start drilling the holes for HS-00006 and HS-00005 that everything will line up as it should and your match drilled holes will be right down the center of the flange like they should be.


 
Jan 31, 2021     HS Stab Work Continues - (2 hours)       Category: Empennage
Match drilled all holes for HS 706.707 and 708 and enlarged the rear holes in HS 708 to #21 to match the rear spar. Assembled left hand side of HS and cleco'd the skin to it. Everything lined up well, couple places took some encouragement but I'm happy with the alignment and wrap of the skin around the leading edges of the nose ribs.

Need to pause here and study the next steps which are placing and drilling the HS-00005 and HS-00006 ribs which are not pre-drilled due to the variability in hole locations for this part of the structure.

Also need to construct a dedicated HS jig to hold everything securely as this is the largest single part of the empennage by far.


 
Jan 19, 2021     Quick work on rib prep - (1 hour)       Category: Empennage
Just a quick job to drill holes on the aft flange of HS-00006, not much but every little bit of progress is progress. Involved drawing a center line on the aft end of the rib and drilling holes 1/4" from the top and bottom edges.


 
Jan 18, 2021     More HS skeleton work - (3 hours)       Category: Empennage
Another good day of progress. Started by rounding the leading edges of the nose ribs as per Van's section 5 to prevent creasing in the HS skin when it is riveted on top. With that done it was time to prep and flute most of the rib pieces. After making sure the flanges were square it was time to do some fluting. Another trick I learned along the way is to use a piece of dental floss to help you flute your rib pieces to ensure that the holes all line up. Works great and I highly recommend. You can see in the pictures a before and after using the floss to judge the alignment.

With most of the pieces prepped, I couldn't resist mocking up the entire structure for the first time! A long ways to go still but it's starting to look like a horizontal stabilizer.

Proud papa moment today as I had my son helping to label the parts!


 
Jan 16, 2021     New Parts Arrived from Van's - (3 hours)       Category: Empennage
With the new parts in hand, it was time to notch the rear flanges of the two nose ribs, HS-00006, so that this part of the flange would fit between HS-810 and HS-814. Doesn't make a lot of sense on paper until you look at the actual parts and realize that the actual rear flange on these parts is a bit to long to fit between these spar doublers. Van's plans say to notch 1/4" off of this piece, DON'T DO THAT! Just test fit the part in there and see how much you need to remove. It was a lot closer to an 1/8 or maybe 3/32 at the most. I'm learning that the plans callouts for many of these notches is too much and you're better off actually seeing how much you need to remove instead of just blindly following the plans.

With that little task done, it was time to start on the edge cleanup and deburring of 10 parts that make up the ribs/skeleton structure. Plug in the scotchbrite wheel and off we go. Not exactly exciting work but has to be done. With the basic edges smoothed out, it was time to get into all of the little notches. This can be a huge pain if you have nothing more than a file and some scotchbrite pads to work with. Fortunately during my wait time for the new parts to arrive I came across this GREAT tip! Take a 1" scotchbrite wheel, cut it into pie shaped pieces, shape it with your knife down to something usable one a Dremmel tool and voila, you have a prefect deburring tool to get into all of the notches in these rib parts. Even using this little tip it still took a while to debur all of the edges.

So three hours of nothing but parts prep and making a neat little deburring tool. Not too exciting but again, one of a million little tasks that needs to be done.

Google this and you will find a few references on VAF as well as YouTube. Pictures courtesy of VAF.


 
Jan 05, 2021     Sorting HS parts and minor problem - (2 hours)       Category: Empennage
I always enjoy getting to go down to our basement to locate new parts for the build, actually feels like progress. As I'm ready to move forward with the HS skeleton, it was time to locate all the parts that make up the internal ribs. At least in my kit from 2011, all of these parts were not wrapped in the blue vinyl, I don't know whether one of the previous kit owner's removed the blueing or that's just the way they come from Vans. Well it's now 2021 which means these parts are at least 10 years old and a few of them looked a bit dull. Then I noticed something else that was a bit more of a problem, a couple of the parts, the inboard most ribs and nose ribs were an older style that they no longer use. Again trying to incorporate the SB for this area with an older kit means that I don't necessarily have the same parts that are required for the build to comply with the SB. So I quickly realized that my life would be much easier if I just bit the bullet and ordered the updated parts from Van's. So not much done tonight other than realizing I needed some new parts. Break out the checkbook again!


 
Jan 03, 2021     Quick simple and countersink - (1 hour)       Category: Empennage
Not much time to work this evening so I finished this part of the build by dimpling the four most inboard holes on the two HS 702 halves and countersinking those same corresponding holes on the HS 810 and 814 stiffeners. Just a bit of mental workout to make sure the dimples and countersinks faced the correct direction which is opposite of most of the other rivets. This allows the flush head rivets to sit flush on the back side of the spar halves.

Fortunately I just happened to have some scrap HS 810/814 parts to get the countersink depth just right. So that screwup a few weeks back actually ended up helping with this part of the build. You end up countersinking the back side of HS 810/814.

Next step is to get out the ribs and start preparing those parts to add to the HS frame.

Oh and I finally cut out a 6 degree template. Should have done this earlier as it makes checking the angles a lot easier than using the digital angle finder.


 
Dec 30, 2020     Notching the spars - (3.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
I've stared at the plans long enough, it's just time to do this. Started by drilling a number 30 hole to establish an edge to which I would not cut beyond. That worked pretty well and I was happy with my first two notches. I used a Dremel tool to make the initial cuts then used a variety of files to clean them up and get the shape where I wanted it. A lot of filing and smoothing with a Scotchbrite pad and I was happy with them. I wish the second set had turned out as well but I got a little carried away and they got a little larger than I wanted. Functionally they are fine and will serve their purpose. The edge distance on these is critical as they are very close to one of the holes that you end up drilling for the doubler brackets.

With that step finally out of the way I mocked everything up to check the fit. For the most part the fit was good although I will make some small adjustments to the 6 degree bends that are required on the 6 individual parts that make up the front HS spar.


 
Dec 23, 2020     Agonizing over a single hole..... - (1 hour)       Category: Empennage
I literally stared at a single hole on HS-00001 for about an hour this night. Why you may ask???? The dreaded minimum edge distance rule. What is this rule you speak? Look it up if you're not familiar, basically for a protruding head rivet, you want at least 2 times the diameter of the hole (from the center) to the edge of the surface that is being riveted. Makes sense as not having enough material surrounding a rivet is asking for a stress crack to start.

The plans call for you to make a relief notch in this part of the spar half HS702 to try to prevent stress cracking from occurring. This is what prompted Service Bulletin 14-01-31 in the first place. The plans call for you to notch this hole right on the bend line in the corner of the spar webbing. The plans want you to make this hole 1/4" in diameter centered 5/16" from the edge of the spar. If you make this relief hole exactly as the plans call out, you will not have enough edge distance for one hole on the top of the spar/doubler combination on each half. Look at the picture to see what I'm referring to. I've drawn the approximate shape of the hole and you can see as drawn, at best you may have 1.5 diameters from the center of that whole.

Now some builders may argue what's the big deal and maybe they are right but if you go searching online this topic comes up quite a bit among builders trying to do the right thing the first time and trying not to have to repeat the step after they screw it up.

So what's the solution? The leading solution seems to be to just make the relief notch just slightly smaller for these two relief holes than what Van's calls for. The idea of the relief notch is to spread the stress so that it doesn't lead to a crack. A notch slightly smaller than the plans call for will still give you the same result and also assure your minimum edge distance is maintained.

So next time out in the shop I will cut these notches and bend the tab of each spar to the called for 6 degrees. I might even bend them the correct direction the first time through..... Time for Christmas 2020, a Christmas like no other so time to take a break from the build for a few days.


 
Dec 22, 2020     New parts in, build on! - (3.0 hours)       Category: Empennage
New parts from Van's arrived pretty quickly so I was back at it. First order was to put the new HS810 and HS814 on the front spar and match drill all of the holes. Next step was to trim down the ends of these two pieces. This is the step I screwed up last time so I was determined not to screw them up again. Instead of trimming them on a saw or with a cutting tool, I elected to take them to my belt sander and grind them down to size. This may have taken more time between using the belt sander and polish wheel but in the end I got the shape I needed with a lot less headaches along the way. In the end, you really only need to trim them down a very small bit so that the edges do not protrude up above the flanges of the spar. One of the pictures below shows one of the parts, either HS810 or HS814, as it sat initially against the spar web and you can see how much material (or more precisely how little) needed to be removed to make them fit.

With that complete it was time to take these parts to the vise and bend them to match the sweep of the front HS spar, 6 degrees aft. I had done a lot of reading on this step and felt like I was prepared. With the parts in the vise, a piece of 2x4 servicing as a form to keep from pinching the aluminum, a few more 2x4 bits clamped together to hold the ends, each end was bent over slowly and checked with a digital angle measure. If you're paying attention you can spot what I did wrong here pretty easily. The aluminum is soft and bends very easily so all the kit with the 2x4's and vise clamp is honestly not required. One important part is for the bend line to be at a specific distance from the center of the part. That's the only really challenging bit.

In the end, once I figured out that I had actually bent the parts in the wrong direction first (DOH, did you catch that?) I was able to easily bend them back in the correct direction and get the angles just right. I ended up just holding the parts down against my work bench edge and using the edge of the table as the form to bend them at the correct location. This actually worked as well if not better than the whole get up with the vise clamp. Again sometimes simpler is better.


 
Dec 17, 2020     Forward HS Spar work - (2 hours)       Category: Empennage
Having spent a significant amount of time from the previous work night studying the plans for this part of the horizontal stabilizer I set out to mock up a few of the parts and start match drilling. Like most things it's a bit more involved that it first appears.

My tail kit was manufactured in 2011. The service bulletin came out in the start of 2014. My original plans are from the original kit in 2011. The most up to date RV-8 plans are from 2016. So..... somehow I had to figure out how to combine parts and plans from three different time periods to get everything together the way it is supposed to fit together. This was a bit more difficult than I had anticipated and involved a lot of studying of plans and the instructions from the service bulletin before proceeding to drill any holes.

The good news is that the most current build plans combine the SB parts and instructions into them so you really just need to follow those plans as your primary source with a few references to the SB kit.

After a couple of hours of scratching my head, moving stuff around and double and triple checking I match drilled everything and mocked them up with clecos.

The final goal for the night was to get the two spar stiffeners (HS 810 and HS 814) trimmed down to their plans described size. I would share a picture but I'm too embarrassed at how badly I managed to mangle each one in an attempt to trim them on the band saw (BIG mistake!!!).

So time for new parts from Van's dang it..... Lesson learned, the amount of metal that needs to be removed is so little that trying to do this with a band saw is a bit tricky unless you are really proficient with one.

So ended the night ordering a new HS 810 and HS 814. No worries, it would take a few days to get the new parts and would allow for a break in the build.


 
Dec 13, 2020     Forward HS Spar work - (2 hours)       Category: Empennage
Prepped the right half of the rear HS spar and readied for paint, got all ready to paint it when I realized that this would be jumping ahead too far in the process so set parts aside for priming in a few more steps after other parts are mocked up and readied.

Realizing that I wasn't going to be painting again just quite yet, I set about studying the plans and drawings for the forward HS spar.


 
Dec 12, 2020     More work on rear HS spar - (2 hours)       Category: Empennage
Riveted together the rear bearing bracket that will hold the elevator. Not a big job but 6 more rivets down, thousands more to go. Also enlarged the holes for the rear bearing bracket to #12's (needs the rarely used green clecos!). Finished by match drilling all holes in the rear spar.


 
Nov 29, 2020     Drilled the center bearing bracket - (1.5 hours)       Category: Empennage
Not a big job but a lot of setup to get it so that you can drill these six #30 holes in the right side HS-411 bracket. As mentioned previously, the left side HS-411 and the bearing itself already had the 6 holes drilled in them. So it was just matter of positioning the left side 411 bracket and the bearing so that their holes lined up and then clamping that little assembly together so that you could match drill the remaining 6 holes in the right side 411 bracket.

So a bit of a setup to make this happen properly. Elevate the entire spar assembly with the 411 brackets and bearing cleco'd in place from the bottom up to make room for drilling. Also had to reverse a few clecos on the top and bottom sides to be able to get the drill in there without interference. Van's says to drill 4 of the holes and then take the assembly off of the spar and drill the remaining two on a bench. Easy enough and that's what I did. The bearing was a bit difficult to drill through but other than that, pretty straight forward.

Vans says you can prime the bearing if you want (not the actual rotating part obviously) so just a quick scuff and prep and a quick spray with the rattle can and let that hang dry for the evening. Will rivet this assembly together during the next work session.

Finished the night by skipping ahead a few steps and bringing the initial front HS spar parts out to the shop. This part looks a bit more complex, doh! Time for some online research.


 


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